Good demo of what Jim was talking about David .... you left his original email "attached" to your response.

Suggestion: find a list that doesn't ask you to do things like trimming your replies.

bob

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From: David Marshall <mailinglist@FASTFORWARD.CA>
> No offence here, but my 9 to 5 job is working at the Quesnel School
> District in the computer services department.  Part of my job is
> administgrating the various mailing lists for the entire District, some of
> which are province wide.  Nothing peeves me more than NOT having the
> context of what is said so I don't have to go back through a dozen emails
> to see what the original thought was.  You can't assume that someone
> knows 100% of what is going on at all time.  If you trim the fluff
> and stuff people who just joined or have searched the archives will only
> get half the answer they are looking for.  Sure, trim off the
> advertising and bull $#!t that is tacked on to the bottom of the messages
> away - why we started to poison our archives with the silly footer is
> beyond me - but it really is pointless to reply to anything if you remove
> all the stuff that came before it or else you will get meaningless
> reponces like "I don't argree with that" and that's it... well
> if you see that responce without anything else around it, it is a pretty
> pointless waste of everyone's time.  If you have "I don't agree
> with that" and the previous email message before that saying
> "the world is flat" - everyone is on the same page and can add
> their two cents to the responce with full confidence they have the whole
> story, cause maybe the world is flat in Who Land, but someone trimmed that
> and you you made yourself look like a baboon.  Hard drive space and
> CPU power is cheap cheap cheap.  Need a server, we have lots we have
> retired, I have anything that is better than our current list server I
> will donate the hardware to the list.  So yeah, trim your reply to
> remove the fluff, but don't trim them and remove the stuff.
>
> I
> also vote to get ride of the footer at the bottom of the messages and to
> send a monthly announcement, that isn't archived, to all members that
> includes a full list of all the listseve commands - far far far more
> useful.
>
> David Marshall
> VW Adventure Driver and BMW
> Adventure Rider
>
> http://www.hasenwerk.ca
>
> On Wed,
> December 17, 2008 17:20, Jim Arnott wrote:
> >
> > Admin pet
> peeve:
> >
> > I just scanned today's posting and of the Re:
> messages, many of them
> > contained the entire thread.
> >
>
> > Please folks, trim the excess off.  If your reply still has
> the
> > vanagon list footer on it, you haven't.  Most of us have
> been
> > following the threads in which we're interested. We do not
> need every
> > word that's ever been written on the subject in your
> reply for
> > context.  We already KNOW the context!  All it does is
> fill up the
> > archives with redundant information. Please remove
> all but that to
> > which you are replying.
> >
> > I
> occasionally forget as well, but at least I try. Some of you aren't
> > trying.
> >
> > If you need instruction on how to do
> so, please p-mail me.
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> >
> Jim Arnott
> > List Admin
> > vanagon@gerry
> >
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