This is all very interesting. and I seem to have gotten more than my
share of "Administravia" messages in recent months, but I'll chance it
again.

I see this group as a community, and as such the threads of thought are
going to weave back and forth like sea grass blowing in the breeze - and
that's OK, and even desirable. Eventually even the grass tends to right
itself as the breeze behind the weaving and bobbing slows. We all know
the rules of decent conduct. Say one's piece, non-aggressively, and let
it lie. We all have differing experiences, different viewpoints,
different expertise, different interests. I see this group as a wheel
rolling down the road chased by a kid (Administrator) with a big
stick(Administravia). When the wheel gets to far off track, a whack with
the stick is all that is needed to get the wheel back on track. I don't
believe it so necessary to keep the subject matter cut clean to the
Vanagon bone. That's like having a Vanagon party and nobody being
allowed to talk ball games, computers, the quality of the beer or the
ladies,  or anything else of interest. At the core is always the Vanagon
- all the other stuff that we get into - computers, airplanes, other
kinds of cars, our kids our significant-others, whatever - is just icing
on the cake. It increases the richness of the experience. I would hate
to see this lost as the reigns  are tightened - and easily could be.

Also - sometimes I pick up on a thread somewhere down the line instead
of with the beginning post. It's nice to be able to get the whole
discussion on one page.

Finally - are we to be permitted to wish all a "Merry Christmas" this
year? I like doing that a couple of days before Christmas Day.

And yet finally again, am I being obnoxious with my questions and
concerns here? Gad, I hope not. But if so, then my testosterone
replacement therapy must really be kicking in. I have noticed of late
that the ladies seem to think I am looking at them  with more twinkle in
my eye than usual!. ;-)

My $0.02 this evening.

Regards,

John Rodgers
88 GL Driver

Jim Arnott wrote:
> Admin pet peeve:
>
> I just scanned today's posting and of the Re: messages, many of them
> contained the entire thread.
>
> Please folks, trim the excess off.  If your reply still has the
> vanagon list footer on it, you haven't.  Most of us have been
> following the threads in which we're interested. We do not need every
> word that's ever been written on the subject in your reply for
> context.  We already KNOW the context!  All it does is fill up the
> archives with redundant information. Please remove all but that to
> which you are replying.
>
> I occasionally forget as well, but at least I try. Some of you aren't
> trying.
>
> If you need instruction on how to do so, please p-mail me.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Jim Arnott
> List Admin
> vanagon@gerry
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