Ok- So�even gerry is�going to reject my posting because I did'nt trim anything off for that minority who only reads e-mail with a small palm device? But the majority of us use PC's which have big hard drives and yet it's the small minority of loyal whiners that have to make the majority trim posts because the moderator�has to placate them or else go crazy reading all the complaints. Tom was too hands off, Jim was too hands on. The perferct moderator is somewhere in-between the two extremes. Whoops- I'm not suggesting I be a moderator- I have no time.
And how about asking gerry to trim it's posts?I'd ask gerry myself but I don't think he can hear very well lately.
'Tis the season to be whining...
Robert
1982 Westfalia

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From: Robert Keezer <warmerwagen@yahoo.com>
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Subject: Re: Electrical Nightmare?
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Jeff,=A0
=A0It depends on if the additional circuits have been=A0installed properly =
or not.=20
I had to replace the entire harness in a Vanagon and Jetta recently.=20
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The Vanagon Westfalia=A0had too many spliced wires=A0 that were unfused and=
 the speedo cluster would smoke when I turned the key on.=20
Looking closer I found so many added wires I thought- no wonder they bailed=
 out on this Vanagon.=20
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You need a Bentley manual to study the electrical schematics=A0 and trace e=
ach non-working component circuit by it's color-coded wire .
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With the number of things not working, and someone having been in there bef=
ore adding the power locks etc, it's probable that these modifications are
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the original cause to the present effect.
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Another thing to check under the dash on the right side there are a couple =
circular metal ground wire connection rings (ground busses)=A0 where the va=
rious components are grounded. If you look there, you might plug and unplug=
 each wire, make repairs to connnectors if needed, and treat tthem with som=
e sort of corrosion inhibitor.=20
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I have found things=A0 worked again by doing this, as the busses themselves=
 can be corroded and might need to be removed and cleaned or replaced.=20
=A0
Robert
1982 Westfalia
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--- On Thu, 12/18/08, Jeff Michal <jeffmichal@YAHOO.COM> wrote:

From: Jeff Michal <jeffmichal@YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Electrical Nightmare?
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Date: Thursday, December 18, 2008, 10:28 PM

Hey folks.  I drive a 1990 GL, and I've got a bit of a problem.  I was out
driving around tonight, and at some point I noticed that my windshield wipe=
rs
arent working.  I start checking other stuff, and alot of my electrical stu=
ff
isnt working.  I checked all the fuses with a continuity tester, no problem=
s
there, but I replaced the fuses for the components that werent working
(specifically fuses 11, 12, and 17) anyway just to see.

I've run down a list of pretty much everything I could think of that is
electric in the van to see what works and what doesnt.

Works - Radio, All lights, Dimmer, Cigarette lighter
Doesnt Work - Wipers, Washers, Power Mirror Adjustment, Auxilary Heater, Ai=
r
Conditioner, Dash fan (pushes defroster).

It was too cold tonight for the engine to get hot enough for the front fan =
to
come on, so I couldnt test that.

I bought my vanagon second hand from an old German fellow who took some
liberties with the wiring harness.  He drilled a hole in the ashtray and fi=
xed a
light on the underside of the dash that shines into there through the hole,=
 it
is hooked up to the dimmer.  He fitted power locks and windows aftermarket.=
  The
radio comes on with the key in switch circuit, but the buzzer does not.  Th=
e
seat belt buzzer does not work either.  There are forward auxilary heater
temparature controls that I dont think are stock; it is a toggle switch for=
 temp
up and down.  Additionally I noticed some very non standard plastic bag loo=
king
material surrounding some electrical component behind the right front headl=
amp
when i was swapping my bulbs. The radio had also been replaced, and there a=
re
additional speakers under my middle row seat.  While alot of these might so=
und
like great things, in the undocumented state I recieved them in, it can be =
a
nightmare.

One other thing I'll say is that recently, within the past month, I have
started using that auxilary heater pretty much non-stop where I was never u=
sing
it before.  I figured out that it works really well and I fell in love with=
 it.

The upside is the guy I bought the van from works for my mechanic.  I can t=
ake
it over there and they'll fix it, but I'll have to pay and I'm not
really looking forward to that a week ahead of Christmas.

I'm hoping this rings a bell for someone, but if it doesn't, what
should I do?  I dont really need the aux heater or the power mirrors, but t=
he
wipers and defroster are critical.  I'm hoping its a relay or something I
can swap out easily.

Any help or recommendations are appreciated.

Thanks,

Jeff
90 GL
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