lol.
how many have you owned when the blew to pieces ?
not any I gather !   But someone will be owning those cars when they have an
expensive repair or rebuild due.

We could debate it forever, so you like what you like, and I'll be down on
diesels for being smelly and noisy - and blowing up easily, like the stock
engines in diesel vanagons .  And 1.9's too, in diesel vanagons.  Have seen
and read about a lot of those blown up.  I have one here.........it went
through two heads in about 3 years.

and yes, due to much more advanced technology, like multiple mini-injections
after the main event..........the traditional clatter associated with
diesels is eliminated with a electronic modern tdi.  Magical things are
achievable via electronics.
  But tell my dump truck neighbors to operate their stinky diesel downwind
from me. They really are offensively smelling.  And they'll let the things
idle for an hour sometimes, not far from me. Not pleasant.  The noise of
diesel helps ruin the hearing of many truckers after years too.

I think all diesel lovers should camp downwind of some idling diesels for a
few days.
no offense intended though, for sure.
just Opinions.
Scott

----- Original Message -----
From: "Zeitgeist" <gruengeist@GMAIL.COM>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 2:22 PM
Subject: Re: TD/TDI noise?

> Dood, there are no downsides to diesel.  That noise is the sound of raw
> grunt powerrrrrrrrrrrrrr.  All cars should be diesel.  My '96 Passat tdi
> was
> remarkably quiet and vibration free.  Awesome engines--just clean out the
> intake manifold, or better yet, trick the 'puter into defeating the EGR
>
> On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 2:06 PM, Scott Daniel - Turbovans <
> scottdaniel@turbovans.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> this is more 'personal opinion' .,..........but noise and vibration are
>> two
>> of the numerous downsides to diesels.
>>
>>
>> --
> Casey
> '87 300TD
> '94 100CSQ Avant
> '89 Bluestar