Heh heh heh...you have no clue.  I've owned well over a dozen diesel powered
rigs (and professionally wrenched on dozens more), and yes, even an '82
diesel Vanagon.  The latter is/was a joke.  The Vanagon 1.6TDs were a bit of
a chuckle, but the TDIs are stone-cold serious.  I'm primarily an MB
turbodiesel guy these days, but I give well-deserved props to the TDI as a
truly innovative and impressive machine.  The NA VW diesels were perfectly
serviceable (routinely seeing 250k or more) in the smaller lighter chassis,
but hopelessly out of their league in a big 'ol brick like a van.  That's
hardly compelling an indictment of diesel technology

Whatever...

On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 9:30 PM, Scott Daniel - Turbovans <
scottdaniel@turbovans.com> wrote:

> lol.
> how many have you owned when the blew to pieces ?
> not any I gather !   But someone will be owning those cars when they have
> an expensive repair or rebuild due.
>
> We could debate it forever, so you like what you like, and I'll be down on
> diesels for being smelly and noisy - and blowing up easily, like the stock
> engines in diesel vanagons .  And 1.9's too, in diesel vanagons.  Have seen
> and read about a lot of those blown up.  I have one here.........it went
> through two heads in about 3 years.
>
> and yes, due to much more advanced technology, like multiple
> mini-injections after the main event..........the traditional clatter
> associated with diesels is eliminated with a electronic modern tdi.  Magical
> things are achievable via electronics.
>  But tell my dump truck neighbors to operate their stinky diesel downwind
> from me. They really are offensively smelling.  And they'll let the things
> idle for an hour sometimes, not far from me. Not pleasant.  The noise of
> diesel helps ruin the hearing of many truckers after years too.
>
> I think all diesel lovers should camp downwind of some idling diesels for a
> few days.
> no offense intended though, for sure.
> just Opinions.
> Scott
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Zeitgeist" <gruengeist@GMAIL.COM>
> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 2:22 PM
> Subject: Re: TD/TDI noise?
>
>
>
>  Dood, there are no downsides to diesel.  That noise is the sound of raw
>> grunt powerrrrrrrrrrrrrr.  All cars should be diesel.  My '96 Passat tdi
>> was
>> remarkably quiet and vibration free.  Awesome engines--just clean out the
>> intake manifold, or better yet, trick the 'puter into defeating the EGR
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 2:06 PM, Scott Daniel - Turbovans <
>> scottdaniel@turbovans.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>> this is more 'personal opinion' .,..........but noise and vibration are
>>> two
>>> of the numerous downsides to diesels.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>> Casey
>> '87 300TD
>> '94 100CSQ Avant
>> '89 Bluestar
>>
>
>

--
Casey
'87 300TD
'94 100CSQ Avant
'89 Bluestar