oh that's right .......it IS Friday !   ( I don't 'do'  M-F, or 9 to 5 or
any of that 'conventional stuff'............so this feels like any other day
to me. I'm about to go do some waterboxer engine work right now . )

well............hey, since it's Friday, let's have some off the wall stuff
then !
If for no other reason that to be 'anti-cabin fever' !
Scott

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Kao" <dtkao0205@yahoo.com>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>; "Scott Daniel - Turbovans"
<scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Sent: Friday, December 26, 2008 6:35 PM
Subject: Re: Two bolts to mount the alternator bracket to the engine block
are just plain missing!

> Scott:
>
> You are right. I jumped into a super speedy conclusion with a
> starter in my mind. My apologies to the list for wasting the
> bandwidth. It's Fryday, Isn't it?
>
> David
>
>
> --- On Fri, 12/26/08, Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
> wrote:
>
>> From: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
>> Subject: Re: Two bolts to mount the alternator bracket to the engine
>> block              are              just plain missing!
>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>> Date: Friday, December 26, 2008, 6:13 PM
>> hi David !
>> you might get many responses asking if you are confusing
>> 'alternator' and
>> 'starter.'
>> The alternator is that silvery lookin' round thing on
>> top of the engine
>> ...........
>> kinda above the right cylinder head............
>> but I know you know that !
>>
>> ( main trans to engine nuts or bolts are 19mm hex wrench
>> size, ......the
>> lower starter one on the stud there is usually a 15mm hex
>> wrench size. )
>>
>> aloha, Scott
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "David Kao" <dtkao0205@YAHOO.COM>
>> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
>> Sent: Friday, December 26, 2008 3:25 PM
>> Subject: Re: Two bolts to mount the alternator bracket to
>> the engine block
>> are just plain missing!
>>
>>
>> > There are two nuts, one large and one small. The large
>> one is for
>> > a bolt for attaching the engine and the transmission
>> together.
>> > This bolt is one of the 4 such bolts and is also used
>> for attaching
>> > the starter. The smaller nut is for mounting the
>> starter to the
>> > transmission on a small stud on the transmission case.
>> >
>> > If the small nut stud are missing the starter is
>> holding on
>> > by the big bolt that is holding the transmission, the
>> engine and
>> > the starter together. If this bolt and nut are also
>> missing I
>> > think the starter will fall off. The engine is then
>> held up by 3
>> > remaining bolts. I believe these bolts have nuts in
>> either 17 or 19
>> > mm nuts. Not sure about the size of the smaller nut
>> and stud.
>> >
>> > David
>> >
>> >
>> > --- On Fri, 12/26/08, Roland
>> <syncronicity1@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>> > From: Roland <syncronicity1@GMAIL.COM>
>> > Subject: Two bolts to mount the alternator bracket to
>> the engine block are
>> > just plain missing!
>> > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>> > Date: Friday, December 26, 2008, 1:43 PM
>> >
>> > Hello folks,
>> >
>> > Quick question.   My alternator was wiggling.  The
>> bracket under the
>> > alternator mounts to the engine block with 2 bolts
>> (maybe).  Both of these
>> > are missing, maybe they just worked themselves out,
>> maybe a prior mechanic
>> > forgot lock washers.  I looked in the Bentley and it
>> doesn't provide a
>> > spec.  Even worse the Bentley shows that there are
>> supposed to be 2 studs
>> > that the bracket mounts on with 2 nuts!  Hey, I got no
>> studs there.  I am
>> > happy to replace them with bolts, if I can find the
>> right size, but please
>> > tell me if this would be a bad idea.
>> >
>> > But mainly I need the thread size for these studs/
>> bolts.  I measured a
>> > hole
>> > of about 25mm, and the bracket is about 10 mm, so I
>> think a length of
>> > about
>> > 30-35 mm should do, assuming another 2-4 mm for lock
>> washers.
>> >
>> > Thank you very much.
>> > Roland
>> > '89 Syncro.
>
>
>