

| Subject: | Re: Transmission Noise ? |
| From: | Walter Houle |
| Date: | Mon, 29 Dec 2008 15:24:19 -0500 |
OK, I did a quick check of the plug and it was very clean. Not even a sliver. I also rotated the tires and verified all pressures were 44 PSI. Next, I went back to the shop. They checked everything, re-adjusted the rear bearings which were slightly loose, and re-torqued all axle, CV joint, and wheel lug bolts. Still no change in the nosie. If anything, its getting louder. What can I check next? Walter On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 13:32:39 -0800, Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM> wrote: >One thing you could and should do is pull the magnetic drain plug on the >trans and see how much metal is on it. >A half inch diameter 'golf ball' of fine metal particles is normal. Worse >than that isn't. >One one trans, I pulled out the magnetic drain plug, cleaned it off, put >back in, and a bunch more metal came out with the magnet immediately. >That trans was toast. > >for suspected wheel bearing noise you swerve gentley. USUALLY .....if it's >noisy going straight and left, but quieter going swerving right.......it's a >right side wheel bearing. >You didn't meantion front bearings, but need to consider that too. >And one of our members just had to re-do one of his rear wheel bearings not >long after doing them.......I wonder if you have the same thing going on. > >here's another transmission bearing test : Idling in neutral, you push in >the clutch pedal, or let it up, and compare noise levels. There shouldn't be >any noise either way, holding the clutch pedal down, or lettting it up. >If it's quiet when pushed down, but noisy when let up ( in neutral ) >..........that indicates noisy and worn transmission input shaft bearings,. >I'm sure Daryl will have more insights on this.........but these are some of >my tried and true bearing noise sleuthing methods. > >Also, where anything is 'new' as in recently worked on.........that's where >you look first, and the hardest. *Especially* if someone else did the >work....... >then you should be automatically drawn to looking into it there, where work >was just done. Seriously. > >scott >www.turbovans.com > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Walter Houle" <whoule@ECSCONTROLS.COM> >To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> >Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 8:42 PM >Subject: Transmission Noise ? > > >> Folks - >> >> I never thought I'd do a "what's that noise" post, but here goes. My van >> started making a new noise. Its a steady droning, almost as loud as the >> motor, and it only occurs at 30 mph and higher. The noise appears to be >> independant of the engine and the transmission. Pushing in the clutch, >> coasting in neutral, and even coasting with the motor off do not have any >> effect on it. >> >> I'm hoping its tires or wheel bearings. However, the tires are about a >> year old Michelin LTX M/S with approx 3,000 miles, and they never made any >> noise previously. The van was treated to new CVs and wheel bearings about >> 500 miles ago, and the rear brakes were adjusted. I put it on stands and >> spun each of the wheels by hand, plus under drive. Didn't feel or hear >> anything unusual, just a light drag of the brake on each wheel. The tires >> also looked fine and true. The transmission, however, is original, with >> 210,000 miles and no service whatsoever except for some very infrequent >> oil changes. >> >> Any ideas what I'm hearing? It really sounds like a bearing going bad, but >> the fact that it happens when coasting makes me wonder. What bearings are >> involved with just the driveshafts turning? >> >> Thanks, >> Walter - 85 Vanagon 1.9 Manual Transmission
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