

| Subject: | Re: hidden oil leak ?? |
| From: | Max Wellhouse |
| Date: | Mon, 12 Jan 2009 19:25:58 -0600 |
Through all that text and history, I don't remember you saying that you had replaced the big O ring between the oil cooler and the block. they are notorious for cracking with age and not terribly expensive to buy, even from the dealer. I think you have to pull a couple of the short small hoses off to get the cooler off, so pinch the hoses to prevent the coolant from leaking everywhere. Using a Fram filter is a no-no for sure, so maybe when you do decide to replace the cooler o ring, you can put a Mahle or Mann filter on there. Others may have additional and/or better advice. the oil might be coming from the small o ring that seals the dipstick holder, especially if the bracket is loose. DM&FS At 06:56 PM 1/12/2009, A J wrote: >OK here is the background. 1991 Vanagon GL it has 40,000 on a "crate" >replacement engine. Runs great,but. About 3-4 months ago ,the first time >it happened, I was driving along about 60 mph and noticed that the rear >window was "filming" up and there was an occasional puff of smoke, >dropped to about 50 and went straight to the driveway. > >The next day went out and cleand the entire bottom of the motor with >carb cleaner and let it sit for a day, no drips. So went for another >drive, about 5 minutes into the drive the same thing happened. This time >I sprayed off the bottom while it was warm and looked for leaks, nothing. > >Next day I put some clean cardboard down on the drive and then did an >short run through the neighborhood came back and parked on the >cardboard. Most of the dripping was at the rear cross motor mount but >there was some at the side by the valve cover. I replaced both vaqlve >covers figuring that if they were leaking the air blowing by would >deposit the oil on the crossbar and spray it on the rear deck. > >Another drive more oil. > >I cleaned it all off again and this time put down cardboard but didnt >drive just ran it in place. Nothing for about 4-5 minutes then it >started leaking and seemed to be coming from the motor mount. Could not >see any oil from the top of the motor only from the bottom. From the top >looking down it is all clean and neat looking like nothing is leaking at >all so it is not being flung through the compartment by the belts. > >I figured that the only place that I couls not see was the probable >area, the crankshaft seal. I ordered a nea seal, replaced it and went >for a drive, yep in about 5 minutes it started spraying the rear of the >van just like before. > >I cleaned it all off and let it cool off. The next day I went out with >the cardboard and with it running in place and changing rpm between 2000 >and 3500 it was a good five minutes before I saw it start leaking. I >cant directly see it but it is leaking on to the left side of the mount >and dripping off the bar, The rear of the motor is not wet and there is >no oil leaking down the side. This wont leak until the motor heats up. > >I am wondering if it is possible for the oil cooler to leak by spraying >the oil onto the mount figuring that after the motor heats up it opens >the gap between the gasket or whatever, sound plausable? If I remember >correctly this started after I changed the oil and installed the fram >filter. I wonder if it is possible for the filter to not bypass and then >create enough pressure to force the oil out? > >There is no oil in the cooling system so I believe the oil cooler is not >leaking internally but wonder if it is possible for oil to leak out >between the cooler and the block, well not leak but spray. Would it be >possible to tighten the cooler to the block by removing the filter and >torquing the bolts or should it be removed and a new seal installed? Or >should I just consider something else because there is simply no oil at >all dripping off the filter or the block just from the bar the the motor >mounts to. Is it possible that the oil could be coming from the motor >mounting bolts. > >Keep in mind that it does not drip and wount drip out until the motor >reaches temp and will stop as soon as it is shut down. Any help, >opinions, or guess appreciated. > >Thanks, > >A J
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