well said.
and .......sorry, can't resist........
as the song Hotel California by the Eagles says.........
you can check out, but you can never leave.

Lol.      :-)
 And .........I didn't think it's been all  that bad. I did think it was WAY
out of line about someone asking for donations to some cause.....
but mostly ...........it's even been a bit entertaining.
And ........the seriously helpful or inquisitive ones can continue to use
the list in an intelligent,  considerate way.
It still works.  And it works all right.
Just needs a bit more focused direction, and the cool hand of a tactful
moderator or two.

----- Original Message -----
From: "mdrillock" <mdrillock@COX.NET>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 9:38 AM
Subject: Re: Vanagon List Moderator

>I agree, the list is in danger and requires a moderator, probably 2 or 3.
>
> Nominating and voting may work but should be done off list!!
>
> Jim is well aware of things and I would rather trust him to either
> appoint some people or tally some kind of discrete vote.
>
> If some of the worst behaving inmates take over the asylum it will be
> time to check out.
>
> Mark
>
>
> dylan friedman wrote:
>> Please don't be sorry.
>> This needs to talked about and something done about it.
>> We have lost many knowledgeable listees due to no or weak moderation.
>>
>> This is the Vanagon list.
>> I vote for just Vanagon content.
>> NVC gets put into a separate folder on my computer and I check it about
>> once every two weeks.
>> The size of the folder grows far to quickily IMHO.
>>
>> I belong to over 30 groups and this particular group is the only one with
>> such issues occuring as frequently as they do.
>> Other lists ban "non content" posters after one warning.
>> Any finger pointing or bad mouthing ends with all parties removed from
>> the list.
>>
>> These lists are excellent for sharing info.
>> I find myself using pmail far more than ever now.
>> This is unfortunate for the lurkers.
>> Speak up people or we may loose more and more of the the listees with
>> true experience and the answers needed.
>>
>> How about coming up with a list of likely canidates and having a vote?
>>
>> dylan
>>
>>
>>
>>