On Jan 14, 2009, at 6:10 PM, David Beierl wrote:

> Which raises a question I alluded vaguely to earlier as being at the
> very heart of this discussion -- who, in the economic sense, actually
> *owns* the list?  Who owns the hardware?  Who keeps the purse?  I
> rather think it's time for a small group of interested parties to
> have some serious discussion about this with Coyote and Tom.  And
> likely sign some papers at some point.

"The list" is 'literally' owned by the listmembers.
The current 'logical owners' are Tom Carrington and myself.
The domain vanagon.com is registered to Ron (Coyote) Lussier.
The server belongs to "the list."  (It was purchased with donations
from the listmembers in 2001.)
There is no 'purse.' TomC has donated the pipe. TomC has donated the
maintenance.
And what papers would you like to sign? Are we going to incorporate?
501(c)(3)? Cool! That implies an income! Can I have a salary now?

Jim