

| Subject: | Re: hidden oil leak ?? |
| From: | A J I |
| Date: | Sat, 31 Jan 2009 23:55:40 -0500 |
Scott, I have already had the drums off and examined everything to order the parts. I have a new set of shoes and both wheel cyclinders. Everything else looks good including the drums. A light rub with some sandpaper should do the trick with them. While I had it apart checking I tried the drums I have from the 79 bay and the fit perfect so I know I have a spare set of drums in great shape if I ever need them. I figure that about 2 hours will allow for a leisurely swap out of the parts and leave ample time to get cleaned up to watch the game. A J On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 10:45 PM, Scott Daniel - Turbovans < scottdaniel@turbovans.com> wrote: > glad you found it ! > oddly..........I've never seen a leaking oil pressure switch by the crank > pulley, on a 2.1 waterboxer......on practically hundreds of vanagons. > > I never work on something with a time deadline. > I *always* always, always find 'there's more.' > more than one expected.......to do really > 100 % complete work that is. > You can finish up after the superbowl if you need to anyway. > I'll be watching 2. > ----- Original Message ----- From: "A J I" <flavanagon@GMAIL.COM> > To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> > Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 7:29 PM > Subject: Re: hidden oil leak ?? > > > UPDATE: >> Well its been almost a month now and I have replaced the crankshaft seal >> but >> that didnt help. When I was replacing the water pump I had more than a few >> listmembers tell me to replace the oil pressure unit as well. I should >> have >> listened! >> That $6 part was the entire root/cause of all my problems. I replaced the >> oil sender today and did some serious run time which in the past would >> have >> produced large oil puddles and considerable spray all ovet the rear gate >> of >> the van, nada, nothig the mysterious oil leak is gone. It was the oil >> sending unit. >> The weird thing is I have cleaned and really looked over the old unit that >> was the cause and I cannot find anything at all from outward appearance >> that >> would make one suspect it as the cause. It looks just fine. Be assured >> that >> it was the cause of the oil spewing because there isnt a drop at all on or >> near the motor even after 1/2 hour run varying to 3200 rpm in park in the >> driveway and then a drive of about 45 minutes where I was cruising at 65 >> mph. >> I will add that anyone that is ever replacing either the water pump or the >> crankshaft seal should at the same time replace the oil sending unit. It >> is >> in expensive and really easy to do when all the parts are out of the way. >> By >> the way I believe that the old sending unit was the cause of the oil alarm >> whenever I did a hard right turn. I tried a couple today on the test run >> and >> the van performed just fine and no oil alarm so I cured two problems with >> the one repair. >> I changed it out with just removing the belts but it was a bit of a hassle >> would have been a snap when the stuff was out of the way. Thank you >> everyone >> for all the help and input. Tomorrow before the superbowl (Go STEELERS) I >> am >> going to replace the rear wheel cyclinders and shoes. The Vanagon will >> once >> again be right and running properly. just in time for the celebration. >> Thanks again everyone, >> >> A J >> >> >> >> On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 7:56 PM, A J <flavanagon@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> OK here is the background. 1991 Vanagon GL it has 40,000 on a "crate" >>> replacement engine. Runs great,but. About 3-4 months ago ,the first time >>> it >>> happened, I was driving along about 60 mph and noticed that the rear >>> window >>> was "filming" up and there was an occasional puff of smoke, dropped to >>> about >>> 50 and went straight to the driveway. >>> >>> The next day went out and cleand the entire bottom of the motor with carb >>> cleaner and let it sit for a day, no drips. So went for another drive, >>> about >>> 5 minutes into the drive the same thing happened. This time I sprayed off >>> the bottom while it was warm and looked for leaks, nothing. >>> >>> Next day I put some clean cardboard down on the drive and then did an >>> short >>> run through the neighborhood came back and parked on the cardboard. Most >>> of >>> the dripping was at the rear cross motor mount but there was some at the >>> side by the valve cover. I replaced both vaqlve covers figuring that if >>> they >>> were leaking the air blowing by would deposit the oil on the crossbar and >>> spray it on the rear deck. >>> >>> Another drive more oil. >>> >>> I cleaned it all off again and this time put down cardboard but didnt >>> drive >>> just ran it in place. Nothing for about 4-5 minutes then it started >>> leaking >>> and seemed to be coming from the motor mount. Could not see any oil from >>> the >>> top of the motor only from the bottom. From the top looking down it is >>> all >>> clean and neat looking like nothing is leaking at all so it is not being >>> flung through the compartment by the belts. >>> >>> I figured that the only place that I couls not see was the probable area, >>> the crankshaft seal. I ordered a nea seal, replaced it and went for a >>> drive, >>> yep in about 5 minutes it started spraying the rear of the van just like >>> before. >>> >>> I cleaned it all off and let it cool off. The next day I went out with >>> the >>> cardboard and with it running in place and changing rpm between 2000 and >>> 3500 it was a good five minutes before I saw it start leaking. I cant >>> directly see it but it is leaking on to the left side of the mount and >>> dripping off the bar, The rear of the motor is not wet and there is no >>> oil >>> leaking down the side. This wont leak until the motor heats up. >>> >>> I am wondering if it is possible for the oil cooler to leak by spraying >>> the >>> oil onto the mount figuring that after the motor heats up it opens the >>> gap >>> between the gasket or whatever, sound plausable? If I remember correctly >>> this started after I changed the oil and installed the fram filter. I >>> wonder if it is possible for the filter to not bypass and then create >>> enough >>> pressure to force the oil out? >>> >>> There is no oil in the cooling system so I believe the oil cooler is not >>> leaking internally but wonder if it is possible for oil to leak out >>> between >>> the cooler and the block, well not leak but spray. Would it be possible >>> to >>> tighten the cooler to the block by removing the filter and torquing the >>> bolts or should it be removed and a new seal installed? Or should I just >>> consider something else because there is simply no oil at all dripping >>> off >>> the filter or the block just from the bar the the motor mounts to. Is it >>> possible that the oil could be coming from the motor mounting bolts. >>> >>> Keep in mind that it does not drip and wount drip out until the motor >>> reaches temp and will stop as soon as it is shut down. Any help, >>> opinions, >>> or guess appreciated. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> A J >>> >>> >>> >
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