

| Subject: | Re: A New Perspective on Vanagon Syndrome |
| From: | Scott Daniel - Turbovans |
| Date: | Sun, 8 Feb 2009 15:39:38 -0800 |
OR............start with an ECU and fuel system that already uses an Air Mass Meter. my 88 740 volvo is such . It's ordinary electronic port fuel injection.........just like a vanagon ..... has the normal inputs..........coolant temp, throttle switch ( though it is a bit more evolved TPS than what a vanagon uses ) .......... but seems to me that it wouldn't be impossible to operate a vanagon engine with a ECU and harness and Air Mass Meter from a similar size and # of cylinders engine. Throttle switch is the only thing that comes to mind right now that's very different. the rest is the same just about .............my volvo uses a distributor, the Igniter is in the ECU ......etc. Just like a 2.1 waterboxer. Seems doable to me ! If I see a wiring harness on a 740 Volvo in a pick-n-pull., plus a non-turbo ECU ...............hmmm. I already have a spare engine wiring harness....... and a couple of spare air mass meters...... heck.........it's almost done ! scott www.turbovans.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Bange" <jbange@GMAIL.COM> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 10:28 AM Subject: Re: A New Perspective on Vanagon Syndrome > On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 4:07 PM, pdooley <psdooley@verizon.net> wrote: >> Probably discussed before, but the *real* fix is to replace the AFM with >> a >> MAF. >> Figure out the output signal profile of the AFM and build an interpolator >> to >> plug into the MAF. > > One of the guys at Bostig mentioned investigating such a device once. > Trouble is, "hot wire" air flow measurement basically combines intake > air velocity, temperature, and pressure and reports them as a single > value to the ECU. This is fine if the ECU is designed to use that > value, but it gets messy when you try to apply it to an ECU like the > Digifant, which reads air temp and (velocity/pressure) as two separate > values. It would require a pretty gnarly lookup table to "unbake the > cake" and get the two values out of the single hot wire value, and the > only real way to build that table is with hours of work at a flow > bench rigged to feed air at a wide range of temperatures, followed by > probably twice as many hours tweaking the system on the engine to get > it refined. In the end, it'd have to be something some nutter does out > of sheer personally folly, rather than a kit someone designs with the > intent of making money. I once sketched out a plan for doing it, but I > can't even find the time to fix the bad oil cooler O-ring on my '90 GL > that's been sitting for 5 months, so that plan resides in a folder on > my computer, right next to the Atmel microcontroller pseudocode I > wrote up to digitally mimic the analog Idle Control Module.... > > -- > John Bange > '90 Vanagon - "Lastwagen" > '90 Vanagon GL - "Wiesel"
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