> In fact the T3 is utterly different to the T2 (and the T1 Split
> which
> the T2 was a modified version of). Nothing, in either design or
> actual
> items, were carried-over (apart from the aircooled engine and
> perhaps
> transmission parts). Which is why most Americans are unaware that
> the
> so-called "Vanagon" is a Type 2.  "Bus".

yup. you guys are right ... that's why when i was crawling around
under my bay window/T2 buses, the actual frame members were in the
same place and were of the same design as the frame members of the
vanagon/T3 buses. and the rear brakes and axles, transmission on the
80-83 aircooled vanagons/T3, and host of other parts are exactly the
same, with even the same part numbers as the bay/t3 buses. vw was
soooo stupid as to not carry over ANYthing from the older buses, not
even the design of the truck frame. ;)

but you know, all those years of actually driving and working on a
bay/t2 sure made it LOOK like the following years of actually driving
and working on a vanagon/t3. ;)

unca joel