

| Subject: | Re: Where does this relay go? |
| From: | Jim Felder |
| Date: | Sat, 21 Feb 2009 20:04:22 -0600 |
And another thing about my instrument cluster that should be reported to the Society for Short-Lived Phenomenon is that some months back I had the turn signal indicator LED working for about a minute. Jim On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 8:02 PM, Jim Felder <jim.felder@gmail.com> wrote: > David, it's a 1983 diesel. > > Jim > > On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 7:51 PM, David Beierl <dbeierl@attglobal.net> wrote: >> At 08:13 PM 2/21/2009, Jim Felder wrote: >>> >>> the coolant light blinked slowly at first, but as the engine heated >>> and the temp needle rose, the blinking became more and more of a >>> constant red light until, at needle center, it was on full time. When >>> I reached my destination, I turned it off and restarted and it was >>> fine ever since. >> >> Fascinating. I've never heard of like behavior. What year is this beast? >> >> >>> I don't know what's in the control module, but I doubt that it is >>> really a relay... >> >> It's not. It's a rather fancy circuit that sends a very high-impedance >> (weak, if you will) square wave out on the active level sender terminal. If >> that square wave is tied to any constant level between ground and +12 >> through a resistance of about 180K or less it will be quenched, and the >> gauge driver remains inactive and floats with the temp sender output. >> However if the square wave continues for several seconds without being >> quenched, the gauge driver goes active and pulls the sender line down to a >> level corresponding to an overheat condition (not all the way to ground, >> which would burn up the gauge). That triggers the flashing light in the >> gauge, which flashes for several seconds whenever it's triggered (and it's >> this behavior that gets out of hand inside the gauge and leads to constant >> flashing for no cause). >> >> At this point the old (large) and new (small) controllers part company. The >> old one applies a steady overheat signal until the square wave can >> reestablish itself, which drives the needle into the hot zone. The new one >> applies an intermittent signal which keeps triggering the blinker without >> greatly affecting the gauge reading. The new one also latches on, so the >> blinking will continue until key-off regardless of what the level sender >> sees. >> >> I had a lot of enjoyment tracing out and analyzing the interior circuit of >> the old-type controller. It was cleverly done. I haven't seen inside the >> newer one, but I suspect they put things into a single no-doubt-proprietary >> chip that were wired out on the old one, since the new one is half the size >> and does more. >> >> -- >> David Beierl - Providence RI USA -- http://pws.prserv.net/synergy/Vanagon/ >> '89 Whitestar "Scamp" >> >
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