Ooops, sent this message prematurely the first time, so here is the complete question...

  Hi folks:

  Trying to determine if a set of rims I've located use 12 or 14 mm lugs.

  On the Samba I found this list:

  Mercedes:
  190E W201 1982-1993 * Bolts 12x1.5 * Bolt Pattern 5x112
  E-Class W124 1988-1991 * Bolts 12x1.5 * Bolt Pattern 5x112
  C-Class W202 1995-2000 * 12x1.5 * Bolt Pattern 5x112
  C-Class W203 2001-2005 * Bolts 12x1.5 * Bolt Pattern 5x112
  CL-Class W215 2000-2005 * Bolts 12x1.5 * Bolt Pattern 5x112
  CLK Class W208 1998-2002 * Bolts 12x1.5 * Bolt Pattern 5x112
  CLK Class W209 2003-2005 * Bolts 12x1.5 * Bolt Pattern 5x112
  E-Class W124 1984-1995 * Bolts 12x1.5 * Bolt Pattern 5x112
  E-Class W210 1996-2002 * Bolts 12x1.5 * Bolt Pattern 5x112
  E-Class W211 2003-2005 * Bolts 14x1.5 * Bolt Pattern 5x112
  M-Class W163 1998-2005 * Bolts 14x1.5 * Bolt Pattern 5x112
  S-Class W140 1991-1999 * Bolts 14x1.5 * Bolt Pattern 5x112
  S-Class W220 1999-2005 * Bolts 14x1.5 * Bolt Pattern 5x112
  SL-Class R129 1990-2002 * Bolts 12x1.5 * Bolt Pattern 5x112
  SL-Class R230 2003-2006 * Bolts 14x1.5 * Bolt Pattern 5x112
  SLK-Class R170 1998-2005 * Bolts 12x1.5 * Bolt Pattern 5x112
  SLK-Class R171 2005-2006 * Bolts 14x1.5 * Bolt Pattern 5x112

  Problem is, when I type in a vehicle  on Tire Rack that is supposed to use 12 lug bolts vs. 14mm lugs, I am presented with the same ASA type 8 rim. Is it possible that the same rim has two different bore size? If I need to drill out the holes, can I do this myself on a drill press or do I need a machine shop? What can I expect to pay at a machine shop for this service?

  Confused...

  Troy