

| Subject: | Re: Engine stutters, tach nosedives. Then, just as suddenly, it's,normal again. |
| From: | David Beierl |
| Date: | Mon, 2 Mar 2009 13:22:10 -0500 |
At 12:47 AM 3/2/2009, Scott Daniel - Turbovans wrote: >very good. >tell us more about what a logic probe is and how to use it. <http://www.allspectrum.com/store/product_info.php?products_id=392> This site has a nice one for sale, $20, and an excellent picture if you click to enlarge the tiny one. I have to go shovel snow now, but I'll read over the description later and try to fill in the blanks. One thing that may help -- in digital electronics, a logic level is a voltage. A voltage near the supply voltage means yes, or one. One near ground means no, or zero. In between there is a zone that means invalid, bad signal. These levels can change extraordinarily rapidly, much too fast to see. Logic probes display High, Low, or invalid, and they stretch out the blink so it's long enough to see. Many families of logic circuits have rigid voltage requirements, but the one called CMOS works over a wide range of voltages, and the levels are defined as fractions of the supply voltage instead of fixed voltages. CMOS is therefore an ideal family for automotive use. The Hall-effect sender in the distributor is not CMOS logic, but its behavior is similar enough that a logic probe set for CMOS should work fine. When all is well, both lights will light. When the music stops, either high, or low, or no lights will be on. Normally hooking a long wire to the end of a logic probe is a bad idea, but this circuit operates slow enough that I think running it up to the dash will not be a problem except maybe from the guy with the monster amplifier on his CB radio (depending on the impedance of the Hall-effect circuit, which I haven't time to look up). And using RG-174 coax with shield grounded at one end would probably cure that. RG-174 is lovely stuff, about as thick as regular spaghetti, very flexible. -- David Beierl - Providence RI USA -- http://pws.prserv.net/synergy/Vanagon/ '89 Po' White Star "Scamp"
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