

| Subject: | Re: Manual trans replacement |
| From: | mark drillock |
| Date: | Tue, 10 Mar 2009 07:49:42 -0700 |
I live where vehicles don't rust. The notion of that lever easily popping off is foreign to me too. I'm sure some do but seldom the ones I need to remove. I have used prybars/hammers, pullers after welding on tabs, propane torches, sawsalls, etc. Mark Ken Wilford wrote: > I agree with Dylan, that shaft coming off here in the rust belt is very > iffy. I have had ones not want to come off with pullers, etc and I had > to cut the shaft off of get it off then put a whole new actuator shaft > in (remove transmission). The end of the shaft is super soft and so if > the arm doesn't come off easily any thing you do to it will mushroom it > and then the arm will never come off without more radical surgery. I > wish you could just pull the clip and slide this thing off by hand. > Maybe out west where things aren't as rusty this is an option but not > where I'm at. It is easier to undo the engine carrier and drop that > down an inch or two to get some room. > > Ken Wilford > John 3:16 > www.vanagain.com > > > dylan friedman wrote: >> The big if is IF you can remove the clutch lever from the shaft. >> I am 50 50 on removing that part. >> >> dylan >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Sam Walters <syncrosam@GMAIL.COM> >> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM >> Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 7:27:13 AM >> Subject: Re: Manual trans replacement >> >> From: "Tim King" <tking_ms@h...> >> Date: Mon Oct 1, 2001 2:57 am >> Subject: Re: [Syncro] Time to change out the slave >> cylinder...(another removal tip) >> >> ADVERTISEMENT >> Hey Folks, I've got a slave tip that will save you some time on this. >> Brent, sorry I didn't see this earlier, but just got back into the >> country. (Three weeks in France. Boy French vehicles have come a long >> way. We had a diesel Renault Laguna that was frankly sweet. Only saw >> about five vanagons the whole time, but many many other delivery-style >> vans.) Anyway, I digress... >> >> I got a tip from Daryl at AA transaxle that makes removing the slave >> on a syncro a snap. Basically, you just remove the slave bracket from >> the tranny by removing ONE snap ring then the clutch lever. >> >> 1. Move slave shaft/boot off clutch lever ball. If your slave is >> totally shot, you can usually just push the slave cylinder shaft/boot >> off the ball on the clutch lever. If it's a good slave (say you are >> just R and Ring the tranny), you may need to open the bleeder to make >> it easy to remove. Just lever it free, then let it hang free. >> >> 2. Wiggle the clutch lever off the shaft. If it's been there for a >> while, you may need some liquid wrench or something, but it should >> come off by hand. >> >> 2.5. Unbolt bracket supports and hose retainers from tranny (above CV >> shaft). >> >> 3. Pull the bracket and slave off as one unit. >> >> 4. Pull the unit down under the van (you put it on ramps, right?) and >> work on it where you have access to it from both ends and room for >> standard wrenches. You may need to remove a couple of the hose clamps >> holding the hose to your tranny to give you more slack. >> >> 5. Bolt on new unit and install in reverse. >> >> 6. Pressure bleed system and hit the road. >> >> Using this method takes about 30-40 minutes total, assuming you are >> using a pressure bleeder like Brent recommends. >> >> Note: I'm not sure if it's syncro specific -- I think it requires the >> flexible plastic fluid lines of the syncro, something my 83 vanagon >> was lacking. >> >> Have fun. This tip from trannyman extraordinaire Daryll at AA >> transaxle makes a drag of a job a LOT easier. >> >> Tim King >> Seattle, WA >> 87 Syncro Westy >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Brent Christensen >> To: Syncro@yahoogroups.com >> Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 5:31 AM >> Subject: Re: [Syncro] Time to change out the slave cylinder... >> >> Well, I did the nasty deed and replaced the slave cylinder >> yesterday morning. Not all that bad, really. Dr. Rainer's tip sheet >> (which I have left attached to this e-mail) was very helpful as a road >> map, but I would offer the following additional advice to anyone >> planning this job: >> >> First, having a pressure bleeder made bleeding the system a >> 5-minute one person job. If you don't have one already, run out and >> get one. I have a unit called an "Eezi-bleed" that I bought years ago >> for an Austin Healey - about $30 and it is pressurized by a tire (I >> use a wheelbarrow tire with about 25 psi in it). A quick search >> turned them up at http://www.aep.bigstep.com/Eezi.htm >> >> Secondly, a 13 mm "Crows foot" at the end of a long 3/8" >> extension worked WONDERS for removing the pesky rear bolt (the one >> towards the reat of the van). Forget trying to do it with box >> wrenches, unless you have a "super stubby" like Snap-On makes, or you >> are willing to make your own by cutting it in half and grinding the >> stub smooth. Another ideal tool would be a 13 mm "distributor wrench" >> but I was not able to find one, and don't even know if they are made >> in 13 mm. >> >> Removing the Slave cylinder entirely from the topside is possible, >> and I would submit, easier. In fact, if you are lucky, you could do >> it without ever crawling under the van at all. The trick is to undo >> the banjo fitting at the slave cylinder, which is a bit tricky if you >> have thick fingers. You have to force the short coolant hose back far >> enough so that you can back the bolt out from the banjo nut. Be >> prepared, as all the fluid will then leak out from the system, which >> for me was nothing, since the slave had failed and dumped all its >> fluid already. (Also, having a pressure bleeder, I was not worried >> about introducing air into the system). >> >> The most difficult thing about reinstalling the new unit (which I >> did as an entire assembly - shaft, boot and cylinder) is getting the >> nuts started. When you drop the slave in place, the rod rests against >> the clutch's throw-out arm (or whatever you want to call it). This >> means that the unit wants to sit about 5 mm above its mating surface >> unless you apply some force, which then compresses the spring inside >> the cylinder (which is still empty of fluid). Once the rear nut is >> started by hand (I used a 13 mm combination wrench slipped in >> underneath the bolt head to hold it in place, which is tricky) you can >> crank it down about 1/2 way by pushing the slave down against its >> mating surface and rotating the nut with your forefinger and middle >> finger. >> >> Once the slave is secured like this, you can start the forward >> bolt from underneath (you have to do the rear bolt first, since the >> only way to put it into position from underneath is to use the hole >> that the slave cylinder fits into). Start the nut by hand, then reach >> in with a long extension and "wobble socket" or 13mm socket on a 3/8" >> knuckle. With a wobble socket, there is sufficient clearance - with a >> knuckle + socket it could be pretty tight. I was able to completely >> tighten the forward bolt this way after reaching underneath and >> placing a box wrench around the head of the bolt and resting against >> something. A couple more turns on the rear bolt head with the >> crow's foot and the cylinder was in nice and snug. >> >> Next comes the banjo fitting, which was surprisingly easy to get >> back on. I pulled back the aforementioned hose and gently started the >> bolt with a couple of fingers twiddling at it until the threads >> caught, then tightened it down with a 17mm open end wrench. Tightened >> it up and then fit a small plastic tube to the bleeder screw, running >> it down to an empty brake fluid can propped in the engine bay. >> >> Next, I fitted the pressure bleeder, attached the wheel barrow >> tire, and then went back and opened the bleeder screw. I stood and >> watched the bubbled dribble out of the system while I opened my first >> beer (when was the last time you did *that* while bleeding a hydraulic >> system?). After a couple minutes and no more bubbles, I checked the >> pedal. No pedal, so I pumped it slowly about 10 times and turned the >> bleeder on again by reapplying the air pressure from the tire. About >> 30 seconds later another batch of bubbles came out, so I shut >> everything down, cleaned up, and tool it out for a test drive, >> everything working beautifully. >> >> Total time for job: About 2 hours start to finish, not including >> setup and cleanup. >> >> Brent Christensen >> Santa Barbara, CA >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >Removing the Clutch Slave Cylinder >> >---------------------------------- >> > >> >1. Even though the clutch slave cylinder is held by only two >> bolts, it's >> > a bear to remove. First thing you should do is to apply generous >> > doses of WD40 or similar to the two bolts. And since, if mounted >> > correctly, the bolts are sitting there with their heads down and >> > their shafts up, the best way to apply the WD40 is from the engine >> > compartment. And while you are there, also remove the tiny rubber >> > cap on top of the bleeding valve of the slave cylinder before it >> > might get lost in the process of the removal. >> > >> >2. The flexible hose leading to the clutch slave cylinder is >> attached to >> > the frame of the van by two clamps. Remove both these clamps from >> > the van. >> > >> >3. The front bolt holding the clutch slave cylinder is best >> removed from >> > below the van with a 13mm socket on top of a long extension >> while at >> > the same time holding the nut with a 13mm wrench. The shorter that >> > wrench, the better. The real problem, however, is the rear bolt. >> > Push up the rubber boot protecting the push rod for the clutch >> lever >> > as much as possible. This way you are then able to access both ends >> > of the rear bolt from the engine bay. Sneak in a 13mm wrench in >> > order to hold the head of the rear bolt and remove the nut using >> > another 13mm wrench. Again, the shorter this wrench the better, and >> > a flat box wrench is probably suited best, because it will fit >> every >> > 30 degrees. >> > >> >4. When the two bolts are removed dive under the van again, pull the >> > push rod out of the rubber boot at the lower end of the slave >> > cylinder and also gently pull the rubber boot from the slave >> > cylinder. If necessary use a small screw driver to convince the >> boot >> > of letting go. Finally carefully find a path between tranny, fuel >> > tank, slave cylinder mounting bracket, half axle, coolant and >> exhaust >> > piping, and maybe some other things to bring the slave cylinder >> down, >> > so it will hang on its hose right below the tranny. >> > >> >5. In order to minimize the loss of brake fluid you should now >> remove as >> > much brake fluid from the reservoir in the instrument cluster on >> the >> > dash as is necessary to lower the brake fluid level below the hose >> > entering the reservoir from the right. This way opening the hose at >> > the slave cylinder will not drain the reservoir any more. >> > >> >6. To disconnect the hydraulic fitting at the end of the hose >> from the >> > slave cylinder you need something to catch the hydraulic fluid >> still >> > in the hose, as well as a 17mm box wrench, a piece of wood, and a >> > hammer. Put the box wrench on the head of the hyraulic fitting in >> > such a way that wrench and slave cylinder form a rather flat >> > triangle, cylinder to the left, wrench to the right, and the >> head of >> > the hydraulic bolt pointing towards you. Place this triangle on the >> > piece of wood and then carefully hammer on the eye of the wrench, >> > flattening the triangle even more and thus loosening the bolt of >> the >> > hydraulic fitting. Be prepared to catch the brake fluid which now >> > starts oozing out. Remove the hydraulic fitting altogether and make >> > sure not to lose the two copper washers sitting on the hydraulic >> bolt >> > on either side of the hydraulic eye. Drain the rest of the brake >> > fluid from both, the hose and the slave cylinder (push the piston >> > back manually). >> > >> > >> >The Slave Cylinder Repair Kit >> >----------------------------- >> > >> >The slave cylinder repair kit contains >> > >> > - a boot for the push rod >> > >> > - a main seal for the piston >> > >> > - a cap for the bleeding valve >> > >> > >> > >> >Repairing the Clutch Slave Cylinder >> >----------------------------------- >> > >> >1. Place the slave cylinder in a vise, bleeding valve down. As >> you can >> > see now, the piston is retained by a circular clip sitting in a >> grove >> > in the slave cylinder. However, that's not the regular C-clip you >> > can remove with the corresponding pliers. Rather use a small screw >> > driver and a hammer and drive the screw driver between circlip and >> > slave cylinder at the side oposite the gap in the circlip, at the >> > same time pushing the piston slightly back with one finger of the >> > hand holding the screw driver. This will push one side of the >> > circlip down while the other end will go up allowing you now to >> > easily remove the circlip. >> > >> >2. Next push the piston down the slave cylinder, close the >> opening for >> > the hydraulic fitting with your thumb, and then suddenly remove the >> > thumb so the piston will shoot up and half way out of the slave >> > cylinder, where you now can easily pull it out altogether. Remove >> > the spring from the rear end of the piston and then remove the old >> > seal by simply using a srew driver and pulling the seal over the >> rear >> > end of the piston (it's elastic enough). >> > >> >3. Dry the piston as well as the inside of the slave cylinder and >> then >> > use finest emery-cloth to remove any residues from both, >> cylinder and >> > piston. >> > >> >4. Next, pull the new seal over the rear end of the piston. Mind >> that >> > the upper and lower edges of the seal have different outer >> diameters. >> > The greater outer diameter points to the rear end of the piston, >> > where the spring is attached. Put spring and piston back into the >> > slave cylinder, push the piston down a little, and insert the >> > circlip. >> > >> >5. Now turn the slave cylinder in the vise upside down, so that the >> > bleeding valve is pointing upwards. Again apply some WD40, then use >> > a 7mm wrench to screw the valve entirely out of the slave cylinder. >> > Clean the valve, in particular the little hole near the pointed >> end, >> > then reassemble the valve and close it tightly. >> > >> > >> >Installing the Clutch Slave Cylinder >> >------------------------------------ >> > >> >Basically undo all the steps you did before to remove the slave >> cylinder >> >in reverse order. However, mind a few things: >> > >> > - Put one of the copper washers on the hydraulic bolt, then the >> > hydraulic eye, then the other copper washer. Then screw the >> > hydraulic fitting into the slave cylinder. To tighten the bolt, >> > again form a flat triangle with the slave cylinder and a 17mm box >> > wrench. This time, however, the box wrench is at the left side, >> > the slave cylinder at the right, and the head of the hydraulic bolt >> > is again facing you. The rubber boot should not yet be installed. >> > Before you fasten the bolt by placing this triangle on a piece of >> > wood and striking the eye of the wrench more or less gently with a >> > hammer, make sure the orientaion of the hydraulic hose is roughly >> > perpendicular to the slave cylinder and downward. >> > >> > - Top off the brake fluid reservoir in the instrument cluster and >> > bleed the system. The bleeding valve is easily accessible now with >> > the slave cylinder just hanging below the tranny, and you can also >> > easily check for any leaks (if the slave cylinder is leaking at the >> > hydraulic fitting you probably forgot to insert one of the two >> > copper washers). >> > >> > - Install the rubber boot (but not yet the push rod) at the >> lower end >> > of the slave cylinder and -- folding the rubber boot against the >> > slave cylinder -- persuade the slave cylinder to go up above its >> > mounting bracket again. Insert the rear bolt from below and screw >> > on the nut a few turns only. Then insert the push rod between the >> > clutch operating lever and the slave cylinder piston, press the >> > slave cylinder down against its mounting bracket, insert the front >> > bolt with its shaft pointing up, and screw on the nut. Fasten the >> > front bolt from below using a 13mm socket on a long extension and a >> > 13mm wrench to fix the bolt, then fasten the rear bolt from the >> > engine bay using two 13mm wrenches. Place the rubber cap on the >> > bleeding valve. >> > >> > - Pull the lower end of the rubber boot down the push rod until it >> > sits in the small grove at the lower end of the rod. Attach the >> > two clamps to the frame that are holding the flexible clutch hose. >> > >> > - Test the operation of the clutch: pull parking brake, put the >> > tranny into first gear, step on both, the brake and the clutch >> > pedal, and then start the engine. >> >> >
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