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Subject:Re: Was: dead cat kills van- What About Bad Gas
From:Peter T. Owsianowski
Date:Sat, 21 Mar 2009 15:45:17 -0400

That's exactly what we said:  Let's throw it on the wood to get the fire
going.  I really find that amazing it could go bad so quickly.  I remember
reading posts on this list of a bus sitting a couple years and then starting
up on the existing gas.

Hope you have a great summer, Greg!  We are heading up to Toronto in June,
but unfortunately not for camping - a family reunion on the non-camping
side.

--
Pete
'79 Westy "Aardvark"
'87 Westy "Joe's Van"
WWW.Busesbythebeach.com

On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 3:39 PM, Greg Potts <greg@pottsfamily.ca> wrote:

> Hi Pete,
>
> Yes, the crap they are passing off as gasoline nowadays can definitely go
> bad in a few months. The refining process is a lot different than it used to
> be and it's designed to increase yeilds and make distribution easier, not
> for long term storage.
>
> Remove the fuel line from a fuel rail and insert it into a 5 gallon gas
> can, then turn on the ignition and the fuel pump will empty the tank into
> the gas can. It'll take a few minutes.
>
> You could try diluting the bad fuel by adding 3/4 tank of 91 octane, but if
> it were me I'd try to get as much of the bad gas out of there as possible
> first. Dispose of it as hazardous waster or keep it to use as an accellerant
> for the campfire of your next bus gathering.
>
>
> Happy Trails,
>
> Greg Potts
> 1973/74/79 Westfakia "Bob the Tomato"
> 1987 Wolfsburg Weekender Hardtop
> www.busesofthecorn.com
> www.pottsfamily.ca
>
>
>
>
> Peter T. Owsianowski wrote:
>
>> This Cat Story got me thinking!
>>
>> My brother's '85 with a 2.2 GoWesty in it won't start after sitting in his
>> barn most of the winter.  It started on the first crank, ran for 4
>> seconds,
>> then died.
>>
>> It has gas, spark, and is turning over well.  Won't even pop one or two
>> times.  We put in new plugs turned it over, and nothing, then came out
>> really wet.  Checked the injectors and they are spraying well.  Connected
>> a
>> known good ECU and cranked - nothing.  Pumped some of the gas into a glass
>> from two injectors and it had a really bad smell.  We put the new plugs in
>> front of the heater, then sprayed starter fluid in each cylinder, put the
>> dried plugs back in, hooked up AFM and Viola!  It started and ran
>> wonderfully for about 8 seconds, then died and wouldn't start.  Checked
>> his
>> gas tank level and it looked like 1/4 tank.  He swears he had a 1/2 tank
>> back in November when it started snowing here in northern Indiana.
>>
>>  We plan on hooking up the fuel pump and draining out the gas in there and
>> putting in as new as we can to see if it starts.
>>
>> He has a brand new Cat (last year) so it can't be that - If it is bad gas,
>> can gas go bad in one winter?
>> --
>> Pete
>> '79 Westy "Aardvark"
>> '87 Westy "Joe's Van"
>> WWW.Busesbythebeach.com <http://www.busesbythebeach.com/>
>>
>>
>
> --
>