

| Subject: | Re: Idle issues... |
| From: | Scott Daniel - Turbovans |
| Date: | Thu, 2 Apr 2009 14:42:23 -0700 |
Marc, things that pop into my mind are : Vacuum leaks - did you go nutty looking for those ? I had one 2.1 that acted all kinds of 'weird' and I found about a dozen intake leaks in the intake manifold area. Made a huge difference fixing those. the 'adapter harness' that is supposed to prevent Vanagon Syndrome ? ............got one of those on it ? Won't affect idle .........but if you have a 'runs lousy, looses power, and shutting it off and restarting makes it go right again for a while, until it does it again '...........that 'can' be Vanagon Syndrome, which is very well documented and discussed online in many places. you wouldn't have a crack in your intake boot would you ? my main tip ..........'check the basics' ......... and every time you get lost...........go back to checking the basics, until you are sure , that each 'basic parameter' is working correctly. I often start with checking compression - also you get to see the spark plugs doing that, and there might be a clue there sometimes. and plug wires.........not usually a problem but something that always needs to be considered. as does clogged cat or muffler. I also like a fuel pressure gauge on the fuel rail while I'm sorting through irregular or non-running .........until I have it running right. Not likely it's the ECU, but it's always very good to have a spare known-good one. For a no-start I like to be sure the ECU is firing the injectors. A nice test, in the case of a no-start, is to watch the injector spray pattern of each injector ( this test is in the Bentley book ) ..... this checks two things........well, 3...............fuel squirts under pressure, ECU is firing the injectors, and what the spray pattern is. one thing to always consider in a simple unexplained no-start is that if the plugs get wet from fuel, and not being fired cleanly, it'll flood...... and that's the only thing keeping it from firing up really........fuel-wetted spark plugs. So always check for that on a no-start situation. "It's just a blockage or leakage of fluids or electrons." ( fluids also include gases btw , not just liquids ) Scott www.turbovans.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marc Perdue" <mcperdue@GMAIL.COM> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 1:46 PM Subject: Idle issues... > Hi all, > > It's good to be back after a multi-year absence of mostly > good-running, good-funning time with my '87 Westfalia. I've had a > number of idle issues with my van over the years, but replaced the > engine when it threw a rod with a Boston Bob big valve engine several > years ago. I was very sorry to find out this week that Bob had passed > away. His was a rational and informed voice and he was very > forthcoming in sharing information and helping me with various > problems over the years. > > I've had a fairly recent and on-going problem which has taken a new > twist recently. Here is the run-down: > > The problem was initially that the van, an '87 Westy, would run fine > going to work in the AM. After work, it would initially run fine, but > then would start losing power, running rough, and stalling at > stoplights. I'd restart and it work fine for a minute. I had some > time ago replaced the idle stabilizer control module, cleaned and > checked the idle stabilizer valve, replaced the Temp II sensor, > replaced the fuel filter, replaced the gas tank gaskets, replaced the > O2 sensor, and replaced a number of exhaust system parts (they were > leaking). A few weeks ago, I replaced the AFM. Now the van would > sometimes stall when it was cold, but seemed to be running better. > Then one day I was driving to my parents' house, 45 miles away, on a > very rainy day. It lost power as if the engine had just turned off. > I'd turn it back on and it would run for about 10-15 seconds before > losing power again. I happened to have a new fuel pressure regulator > and replaced that, to no avail. > > I had it towed to a non-VW shop where they checked lots of stuff like > grounds, O2 sensor function, spark plugs, and distributor. They fixed > a gas > leak on the passenger side. They said they didn't know what else to > do and suggested I have it towed to a VW shop. On a hunch, I asked > them to set the valve lash to zero, cold, per Boston Bob's > instructions for the big valve engine. It was off. It ran better, > and I was able to drive it home, but the idle is still rough as a cob. > > I'm sort of at a loss as to what to do next, other than replace the > ECU, which I have tested, and which meets specs. > > And festival season is coming up . . . sigh . . . > > Thanks for any light you all can shed on this . . . > Marc Perdue > > PS--Coincidentally, I have an '85 BMW 528e whose radiator broke, and > an '88 BMW 535 IS with electrical issues, and which decided not to > stay running at all anymore, both at the same time. So, I am carless > at the moment . . . Waaahhh.....
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