

| Subject: | Re: Help stuck caliper slide pin |
| From: | mark drillock |
| Date: | Wed, 1 Apr 2009 16:43:56 -0700 |
There is one possible problem with your mining effort. The more common caliper used on 86-91 is Girling brand. It uses it's own carriers. There were some ATE calipers also fitted around 89 but these use a different carrier mated to them. Since the guide pins are what attach the caliper to the carrier there might be a different pin used depending on which brand is involved. More digging is needed. Mark Ed McLean wrote: > Come on guys, let's do a little data mining here. > > Starting with what we know: > Need Guide Pins for brake caliper for an '86 Vanagon > > Looking in the ETKA catalog we see no pins listed for the '86 Vanagon but if > you look at the '88 Vanagon, which has the same calipers, we see Guide Pins > (Description notation (3) 251 615 219A) for ATE calipers. > > Now taking this part number to the BusDepot website, we find these pins are > available from Germany. > > If we do a Google search with this part number, we see on a Russian website > where these are used on several Audi models, including the late 1987 Audi > 100. This is confirmed for the US version by going back to the ETKA Audi > section. > > Looking back at the Google search, we see that there is a Beck Arnley > product (084-1244 Brake Guide Pin Kit) that is two guide pins, rubber seals, > and bolts for the 1987 Audi 100 and the following other cars: > * 1989-1994 Audi 100 > * 1989-1993 Audi 100 Quattro > * 1989-1991 Audi 200 > * 1989-1991 Audi 200 Quattro > * 1980-1987 Audi 4000 > * 1984-1987 Audi 4000 Quattro > * 1980-1988 Audi 5000 > * 1986-1988 Audi 5000 Quattro > * 1988-1992 Audi 80 > * 1988-1992 Audi 80 Quattro > * 1988-1991 Audi 90 > * 1988-1991 Audi 90 Quattro > * 1995-1995 Audi A6 Quattro > * 1981-1987 Audi Coupe > * 1990-1991 Audi Coupe Quattro > * 1973-1979 Audi Fox > * 1983-1985 Audi Quattro > * 1992-1993 Audi S4 > * 1995-1995 Audi S6 > * 1990-1993 Audi V8 Quattro > * 1984-1985 BMW 318i > * 1984-1989 Mercedes Benz 190D > * 1984-1986 Mercedes Benz 190E > > Now you have lots of options: > Either buy them from a list vendor > or > buy them from a FLAPS or internet FLAPS > or > go to a salvage yard and pull them from one of the above mentioned cars. > > All it takes is just a little work to find this information. > > > Of course, don't buy these based on my notes here. Do your own research and > convince yourself that you are getting the correct part. > > > I also would like to mention, from my own experience, that the top surface > where the pin mates to the caliper, must be absolutely perpendicular to the > axis of the pin or the caliper will jam when the pin bolts are tightened. I > know this because I purchased some calipers a while back and they were not > packed securely. During shipment the very heavy box was dropped and the > pins were bent because the calipers were shipped assembled on the carriers. > This caused the calipers to jam and overheated my brakes, destroying the > grease seals and throwing wheel bearing grease all over everything, > including the pads and discs. > > Regards, > Ed >
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