Yep I got the Girling, although I'm impressed with the detective work on Ed's behalf.  Back to the pin availability issue and the prudence in reusing one with a beat up dust boot lip.  Can anyone address either of these directly?

 

Ryan
 
> Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 16:43:56 -0700
> From: mdrillock@COX.NET
> Subject: Re: Help stuck caliper slide pin
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> 
> There is one possible problem with your mining effort. The more common
> caliper used on 86-91 is Girling brand. It uses it's own carriers. There
> were some ATE calipers also fitted around 89 but these use a different
> carrier mated to them. Since the guide pins are what attach the caliper
> to the carrier there might be a different pin used depending on which
> brand is involved. More digging is needed.
> 
> Mark
> 
> Ed McLean wrote:
> > Come on guys, let's do a little data mining here.
> >
> > Starting with what we know:
> > Need Guide Pins for brake caliper for an '86 Vanagon
> >
> > Looking in the ETKA catalog we see no pins listed for the '86 Vanagon but if
> > you look at the '88 Vanagon, which has the same calipers, we see Guide Pins
> > (Description notation (3) 251 615 219A) for ATE calipers.
> >
> > Now taking this part number to the BusDepot website, we find these pins are
> > available from Germany.
> >
> > If we do a Google search with this part number, we see on a Russian website
> > where these are used on several Audi models, including the late 1987 Audi
> > 100. This is confirmed for the US version by going back to the ETKA Audi
> > section.
> >
> > Looking back at the Google search, we see that there is a Beck Arnley
> > product (084-1244 Brake Guide Pin Kit) that is two guide pins, rubber seals,
> > and bolts for the 1987 Audi 100 and the following other cars:
> > * 1989-1994 Audi 100
> > * 1989-1993 Audi 100 Quattro
> > * 1989-1991 Audi 200
> > * 1989-1991 Audi 200 Quattro
> > * 1980-1987 Audi 4000
> > * 1984-1987 Audi 4000 Quattro
> > * 1980-1988 Audi 5000
> > * 1986-1988 Audi 5000 Quattro
> > * 1988-1992 Audi 80
> > * 1988-1992 Audi 80 Quattro
> > * 1988-1991 Audi 90
> > * 1988-1991 Audi 90 Quattro
> > * 1995-1995 Audi A6 Quattro
> > * 1981-1987 Audi Coupe
> > * 1990-1991 Audi Coupe Quattro
> > * 1973-1979 Audi Fox
> > * 1983-1985 Audi Quattro
> > * 1992-1993 Audi S4
> > * 1995-1995 Audi S6
> > * 1990-1993 Audi V8 Quattro
> > * 1984-1985 BMW 318i
> > * 1984-1989 Mercedes Benz 190D
> > * 1984-1986 Mercedes Benz 190E
> >
> > Now you have lots of options:
> > Either buy them from a list vendor
> > or
> > buy them from a FLAPS or internet FLAPS
> > or
> > go to a salvage yard and pull them from one of the above mentioned cars.
> >
> > All it takes is just a little work to find this information.
> >
> >
> > Of course, don't buy these based on my notes here. Do your own research and
> > convince yourself that you are getting the correct part.
> >
> >
> > I also would like to mention, from my own experience, that the top surface
> > where the pin mates to the caliper, must be absolutely perpendicular to the
> > axis of the pin or the caliper will jam when the pin bolts are tightened. I
> > know this because I purchased some calipers a while back and they were not
> > packed securely. During shipment the very heavy box was dropped and the
> > pins were bent because the calipers were shipped assembled on the carriers.
> > This caused the calipers to jam and overheated my brakes, destroying the
> > grease seals and throwing wheel bearing grease all over everything,
> > including the pads and discs.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Ed
> >

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