

| Subject: | Re: Water leak on the passenger side creating a pool of water in footwell |
| From: | Robert Stewart |
| Date: | Fri, 10 Apr 2009 14:06:46 -0400 |
Thanks Doug. I had the window replaced last year the person who did was a company safelite glass. The person came to my home and did during a slight drizzle. I assume this is when the problem may have occurred. I will try your suggestion. Thank you for your great advice. Robert NY On Apr 10, 2009, at 12:48 PM, Doug Noganav wrote: > sorry (long) > > Robert, > To use the sealant properly you need to get your head around this > "design > flaw" which has plagued vws and many other cars for that matter for > decades. > > Before the windshield glass and rubber gasket are installed the > metal on the > vanagon has a shape to it. To attack this problem you need to > understand how > the vanagon looks with the windshield and gasket out. > > If you had the windshield out and sprayed the van with water or it > rained, > you would see exactly where the water is pooling behind the gasket > in the > metal body. > It along the bottom edge where the angle of the metal slopes upward > for an > inch or so behind the seal. This cups or pools the water there. > > When the windshield and gasket are installed the gasket is not > making a > perfect seal and anyplace along the top or sides so water can get > between > the gasket and body which will allow the water to run behind the > gasket DOWN > to the lowest spot. Generally this is the two outside lower corners > of the > windshield and the water will POOL there. > > If this area rusts and develops even a pin hole all the water will > run to > the floor inside. Because now there is a DRAIN for the pool. > > If the body has no holes the pool will hold a couple table spoons of > water > then overflow forcing the excess water out the bottom of the > windshield > gasket. > > If you can seal the EDGE of the rubber gasket to the body with a > small bead > of silicone you can keep the water out. If you take the windshield > out and > repair the body you can keep the water out. > > It seems to me that you would want to run a tiny bead along the > entire edge > of the top and sides to just seal the area the rubber edge meets the > metal. > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robert Stewart" <robertmstewart@MAC.COM> > To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> > Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 8:57 AM > Subject: Re: Water leak on the passenger side creating a pool of > water in > footwell > > >> Doug, >> >> Question.. >> >> Should I be placing clear silicone sealant at the bottom under the >> edge of the entire windshield channel? >> Inside and outside? >> >> Should this be done to all the windows in the van if possible or is >> this overkill? >> >> Should I be Petroleum Jelly, or spray way in their as well before the >> silicone? >> >> Robert >> NY >> >> On Apr 10, 2009, at 7:10 AM, Doug Noganav wrote: >> >>> The most common place in the front of the vanagon for a leak is the >>> windshield channel at the bottom. Behind the gasket. The metal body >>> there is >>> cupped and will pool water even behind the gasket. The vanagon >>> easily rusts >>> there. >>> >>> Go here to view pics of a vanagon rust repair. > www.benplace.com/alain87.htm >>> >>> You might be able to see the underside of this area with a flash >>> light if >>> you pull the glove box out. Not sure. >>> >>> Zoltan mentioned putting clear silicone behind the gasket. That >>> could help. >>> >>> My feeling is the water is running in the top and down the sides and >>> to the >>> bottom of the windshield channel. All it takes is a pin hole rust >>> spot to >>> allow it to flow on down inside the van behind the dash and onto the >>> floor, >>> where it pools. >>> >>> Doug >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Robert Stewart" <robertmstewart@MAC.COM> >>> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> >>> Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 2:58 PM >>> Subject: Water leak on the passenger side creating a pool of water >>> in >>> footwell >>> >>> >>>> Hey Everyone, >>>> >>>> I just noticed that I have a Water leak on the passenger side >>>> creating >>>> a pool of water in the footwell! >>>> >>>> Anyone ever heard of this before? >>>> >>>> I checked the door seals nothing was wet there. I see no visible >>>> water >>>> flowing in the van. >>>> >>>> Could it be coming in from the front where radiator or passenger >>>> side >>>> lights are? Then maybe it flows in from there? >>>> >>>> I had my windshield replaced last year with a new window seam and >>>> it >>>> looks fine. >>>> >>>> I am stumped. >>>> >>>> Was thinking of taking a friend with me to car wash, using the >>>> power >>>> washer on that side while someone is in the car to see where it is >>>> leaking in from. >>>> >>>> TIA >>>> >>>> Robert >>>> NY >>>
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