

| Subject: | Re: Disc brake setup, info finally! |
| From: | VW Doka |
| Date: | Mon, 13 Apr 2009 12:50:17 -0400 |
Raimund, How many sets do you have ready to go? I have a container leaving Germany next week and could provide reasonable shipping. Cheers, Jeff Autostadt West On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 12:10 PM, Raimund Feussner <ray@v6bus.de> wrote: > Hello List, > > sorry for the delay, but a busy week didn?t leave me time to write a summary > about the brake kit. > I will try to answer every question that was asked via the list, and also > add a summary of the available options including prices. > > The front is available with 288mm or 312mm discs, both also available with > drilled rotors. > A 57mm single-piston caliper is used. > This is not the system David Marshall is showing in his webpage. > There are no mounting holes machined or enlarged (neither on the caliper, > nor on the Vanagon), it is a simple bolt-on via adaptors. > The hubs are stock Vanagon disc brakes, machined down to fit into the new > rotor. > In Germany, I include the hubs in the complete kit in exchange for the > buyer?s old rotors. > Since shipping hubs back and forth from Germany to North America is a bit > expensive, I will not include these. You have to get your old rotors > machined by a local shop/mechanic. > The 288mm version needs at least 15" rims. The 312mm version definitely > needs at least 16". > > The rear setup is a 245mm solid rotor with a 38mm single-piston caliper (15" > rims minimum). > The emergency brake cable directly connects to the caliper, no > brakepad-in-a-rotor. > The hubs stay stock Vanagon, but also have to be machined to fit into the > new rotor. > This also is a direct bolt-on via adaptors. Included is also a pair of > custom dust plates to sit right behind the new rotors. > > I will also include 4 center rings for precise alignment of your wheels > (66,5mm center bore) on the Vanagon. > > For 2WDs, the wheel offset on the front will be changed circa 5mm on each > side (the thickness of the rotor on the hub). > For 4WDs 14", the wheel offset will be changed circa 4mm. The stock rotor is > changed against the new one, plus a 4mm inner spacer underneath. > 2WD and 4WD 14" rear, the wheel offset will be changed circa 2-3mm (new > rotor is thicker than the old drum). > Please be advised that longer wheel studs/bolts may become necessary and > that your wheel arches might need modifications. > > A kit for 4WDs 16" is not (yet?!) available. Neither front, nor rear.. > > There are no other major (irreversible) modifications to the Vanagon > necessary. > The Vanagon?s brake master cylinder and proportioning valve stay unchanged. > When developing the setup I made sure that the donor Audi cars have the same > front /rear balancing as the Vanagon (rear piston, master cylinder diameter > etc). > > All versions use the same adaptor kit, no matter if 4WD or 2WD, if 288mm or > 312mm. > Included is every single part EXCEPT the parts which have a VW/Audi part no > (as stated above, no hubs included). > These are available via VW, third-party dealer or junkyard. Even in the > U.S., these are common german VW/Audi parts, no rare, expensive, > super-special items. > I will also prepare an instruction sheet in english. > > > Now for the price of the different deliveries: > > Only front adaptor kit: US-$ 520 > Only rear adaptor kit: US-$ 520 > Complete front and rear kit: US-$ 950 > > Group purchase options for at least 5 sets: > Front: $490 each > Rear: $490 each > Complete: $910 each > > Group purchase options for at least 10 sets: > Front: $450 > Rear: $450 > Complete: $860 > > These are better prices than I take in Germany, mainly because I don?t have > to hassle with the hubs. > > > > I think payment is best done via PayPal in two steps. > The parts list, including all part-no.s of the needed VW/Audi parts, will be > delivered after the first half of the payment is done. I will then order the > parts of the kit and when shipping is ready, the second half of the payment > will be done. > I won?t spread the parts list before any payment. It?s not that I want to > become a professional vendor, but I spent weeks and weeks of development and > think I deserve a bit for this effort.. > This brake is no space science, and capable mechanics can also develop the > set. But if you don?t want to spend the money, please invest your own brains > in such a project. > > The list should be used to order, so you guys can see how many sets are > REALLY going to be sold. That way you can be sure that I really give you the > correct group discount. > > Regarding shipping costs: I can?t give you a number now. It depends if I > send the whole package to one address or every set to its respective buyer. > We will have to work that out later. > If any of the mentioned persons (busdepot, eurocampers, D.Marshall/Henning) > would like to help out, this would be most appreciated! > > Moderators, if you don?t want the list spammed with orders :-) I am willing > to use another method... > > Regards > Raimund > >
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