>I don't know if i posted this one
>http://www.benplace.com/alain87.htm
>

Some owners must really LOVE their old vans....

In most cases it would be cheaper/easier/smarter to buy a rust free van from California and start over.

Now that I live in California, I'm spoiled.   I never want to work on vehicles from the east...too much cancer, too much hassle.   Ben and you others in the East are brave, skilled, and patient men...I guess you use the long cold winters to stay inside and perfect your craft.