

| Subject: | Re: Westfakia, Poptop, Access, Design |
| From: | ALISTAIR BELL |
| Date: | Tue, 21 Apr 2009 17:14:31 -0700 |
A few pics here that may help to illustrate.... http://www.brick-yard.co.uk/forum/westie-pop-top-conversion_topic30479_post227668.html Alistair ----- Original Message ----- From: mark drillock <mdrillock@COX.NET> Date: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 16:49 Subject: Re: Westfakia, Poptop, Access, Design To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > I agree, but no one suggested removing the entire roof skin. > Only a > section for standing in the main floor area is trimmed out, and not > anywhere near all the way to the gutters. Cut 1/3 of the center > of the > shoebox lid out and not all the way to the edge and see the minimal > impact on rigidity. > > Mark > > > Mike wrote: > >�� In a 'unibody' (also referred to as 'monocoque') > design structure, any > > skin section is a structurally-stressed component of the entire > > structure.� A Vanagon is considered unibody, even though > it does > > have frame strengthening members underneath. > > Those roof support arches are more for rollover protection than > > torsional rigidity of the body.�� The roof skin, > however, is an > > engineered, diagonal bracing that contributes greatly to torsional > > rigidity of the entire body, in addition to providing added metal > > structure to add crash or rollover protection. > >�� Take a shoe box, remove the lid and grab the ends > and attempt to twist > > it; it will easily deform. > >�� Now, put the lid on and repeat; you'll have a hard > time deforming the > > box from it's basic shape. > >�� And, now, for the final proof of the body weakness > created by a > > large, unreinforced sunroof opening; cut a good -sized > 'sunroof' into > > your shoebox lid and repeat your twist test.� What > happens?� My bet is > > that a great amount of overall rigidity is lost due the > 'missing' area. > > You've cut the center out of your 'diagonal bracing! > >�� VW made up for it by adding 'doublers' inside the > factory sunroof, not > > just a couple of cross ribs.� The probably also added > outboard, lower > > frame cover plates (I know they did on the earlier > buses).� Side impact > > crash protection, must also be taken into consideration in this > > modification.� (Smack the side of the shoebox to > demonstrate this aspect.) > > > > Mike B. > > > > > > > > > >���� As long as you don't cut the 2 main > roof arches, one at the front edge > >���� of the slider door and one at the rear > edge, the roof area between is > >���� just roof skin and not of much > importance structurally, IMHO. >
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