Jeff,

Double-check me, but I don't think using automatic seatbelts with a
baby seat is recommended.  I specifically remember that Graco said
only static manual belts were ok.  Automatic belts do not hold enough
tension.

On 4/21/09, Jeff Palmer <jpalmer@mts.net> wrote:
> Thanks Ron.  I think you have the same part number twice.  The 3 point
> belt for the drivers side should be
> http://busdepot.com/details.jsp?partnumber=253857815D
>
> So at best I can only have a 3 seater Westfalia with 3 point belts?
> How did the factory do it?
>
> I don't suppose any single or double 'middle' seats can be adapted
> with 3 point belts in a Westfalia?
>
> Thanks
> Jeff
>
> On 21-Apr-09, at 8:04 AM, The Bus Depot wrote:
>
>>> My 85 Westfalia only has lap belts, not 3 point belts
>>> although i would like to add those at some point.
>>
>> VW offered 3-point rear seatbelts for the Vanagon, and made the
>> passenger
>> side available as a retrofit for the VW Camper. (You can do the
>> driver side
>> too if you want to put a hole in your wardrobe cabinet.)  Years ago I
>> installed a passenger side one for my daughter's front-facing car
>> seat. Now
>> she's 10 and I still feel much better having a 3-point belt for her
>> instead
>> of just a lap belt.
>>
>> The VW kit uses the stock mounting points that are already welded to
>> your
>> van under the panel. Because it is factory engineered for this
>> specific
>> mounting point in this specific vehicle, , I feel safer with it than
>> with an
>> aftermarket kit that has not actually been crash tested. Factory
>> instructions are included, and the installation is easy since the
>> factory
>> mounts for it are already there. If you plan to add 3 point belts in
>> the
>> future my advice would be to do it soon. VW is discontinuing Vanagon
>> parts
>> at a fast clip, and all it would take would be for a single piece in
>> the
>> mounting kit to go obsolete and then you could no longer do the
>> factory
>> retrofit.  Here is what you will need:
>>
>> http://busdepot.com/details.jsp?partnumber=253857816D (3 point belt
>> only -
>> passenger side)
>>
>> http://busdepot.com/details.jsp?partnumber=253857816D (3 point belt
>> only -
>> drivers side)
>>
>> http://busdepot.com/details.jsp?partnumber=253857749D (buckle
>> section - only
>> needed if installing in 1980-84)
>>
>> http://busdepot.com/details.jsp?partnumber=253857816KIT (parts kit &
>> instructions, does 1 side)
>>
>> - Ron Salmon
>>  The Bus Depot, Inc.
>>  www.busdepot.com
>>  (215)  234-VWVW
>>
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>

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