

| Subject: | Re: Surepower 1315 test report |
| From: | Keith Ovregaard |
| Date: | Sun, 10 May 2009 17:19:37 -0700 |
Thanks for the helpful info, Dennis. The Progressive Dynamics PD9130 looks like a good way to go, but that purchase will have to wait. In the meantime, I will make sure that the battery being charged is disconnected. PS: Oops, I meant to write Schumacher, not Shcumaker On May 10, 2009, at 4:16 PM, Dennis Haynes wrote: > While the "Shcumaker SpeedCharger" is advertised as a smart charger, > its > smarts are limited and it definitely is not adaptive. This is also a > somewhat unfiltered switching power supply and it is not right for > your > application. While it does have a "Boost" function to help get > vehicles > started, it is not intended to regularly be used to fully charge > batteries > while installed. It is not designed to charge batteries while loads > are > connected. The Progressive Dynamics unit would work much better here > and the > 1315 wouldn't chatter. You also wouldn't have to worry about blowing > up your > stereo and ECU. When using the Shcumaker you should disconnect the > battery > from everything, especially during equalize cycles. Also, you don't > want to > those very often. > > Dennis > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Keith Ovregaard [mailto:kovregaard@gmail.com] > Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 12:48 PM > To: Dennis Haynes > Cc: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > Subject: Re: Surepower 1315 test report > > From what I have learned about batteries, it is not recommended to > charge dissimilar batteries or dissimilar states of charge. Deep cycle > batteries require a different charge cycle than a start battery. > Granted, most of the time there will be no problem, but when I want to > run an equalizing charge on the deep cycle battery I can't do it with > the current setup. In fact, yesterday my smart charger (Schumaker > 2/10/30/60 SpeedCharger) went into error mode probably because the > 1315 was switching back and forth as the charger was trying to do it's > thing. I don't really know, but once the ground on the start battery > was pulled, the charger was OK. > > Keith > > On May 10, 2009, at 9:10 AM, Dennis Haynes wrote: > >> Once you add or use the battery switches it is no longer automatic. >> I also >> see no problem letting the charger also top off the starting >> battery. If the >> charger is really large, having another battery connect during the >> bulk >> charge may actually give you better results. What size is your >> charger and >> house battery? My present and past RV used the bi-directional >> combiner >> concept and it has worked very well for nine years. >> >> Dennis >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Keith Ovregaard [mailto:kovregaard@gmail.com] >> Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 12:04 PM >> To: Dennis Haynes >> Cc: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM >> Subject: Re: Surepower 1315 test report >> >> Certainly a relay would have worked for my setup, but since I already >> have the separator installed, I might as well add the battery >> switches >> to isolate the batteries while hooked up to the high-amp charger. >> Otherwise, this system works very well and I don't have to do a >> thing. >> It's totally automatic. >> >> Keith O. >> 90 Westy Syncro "VikingWagen" >> >> On May 9, 2009, at 7:26 PM, Dennis Haynes wrote: >> >>> At that point what you really want is an ignition switch or >>> alternator >>> controlled relay. A lot cheaper than the combiner. >>> >>> Dennis >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On >>> Behalf Of >>> Keith Ovregaard >>> Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2009 6:05 PM >>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM >>> Subject: Surepower 1315 test report >>> >>> To answer the question of whether disconnecting the ground from the >>> 1315 battery separator would force the battery banks to separate, >>> the >>> answer is no. The 1315 must be able to sense voltage between the >>> batteries without being grounded. FYI, my 1315 is wired with a >>> manual >>> boost switch and LED indicator, for what that's worth. That >>> shouldn't >>> have anything to do with normal operation. I also isolated the 1315 >>> from the frame ground to see if that had any effect and it didn't. >>> So, >>> it looks like the installation of a main switch on each battery will >>> do the trick to guarantee isolation of the batteries. >>> >>> Keith O. >>> 90 Westy Syncro "VikingWagen" >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >
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