

| Subject: | Re: Digifant Fuel System Troubleshooting Experience |
| From: | Ken Wilford |
| Date: | Tue, 12 May 2009 07:57:17 -0400 |
Robert it is to keep you from burning to death in case of an accident. The van crashes, a fuel line ruptures, and because of a jimmy rig repair gas is constantly pumping out of a ruptured line onto a hot engine and maybe sparking broken electrical wiring. You are knocked out and now the van bursts into flames. Is doing a repair right and spending a few extra dollars or some extra time to troubleshoot a problem worth it? Of course it is. Take it from someone who has been through a car fire once, you never want to have to go through this, ever. Ken Wilford John 3:16 www.vanagain.com Robert Keezer wrote: > What is the safety issue with a constantly running pump? I know someone on this list who has a continuosly running pump on a aircooled Vanagon who says it's no big deal. > he says it's no big deal, it's OK, you worry too much. > I know it's not the original design but what could be the danger of a pump that runs constantly ?I'd like to know. > > Robert > 1982 Westfalia > > --- On Mon, 5/11/09, Dave Arthur <dave.arthur@NSCC.CA> wrote: > > > From: Dave Arthur <dave.arthur@NSCC.CA> > Subject: Digifant Fuel System Troubleshooting Experience > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > Date: Monday, May 11, 2009, 5:54 PM > > > I hope I never get to be one of those PO (Previous Owners). I hate it when > technicians(?) take short cuts and 'make it work'. > > I've been tracking down an uneven idle and decide it was time to do a test > of the injectors. I work at a community college and borrowed an OTC kit, it > consists of a pressure gauge and an electronic device to manually fire the > injectors. > > The procedure is to fit the pressure gauge into the fuel system, turn on the > ignition to pressurize the system (pump should shut off after 5 seconds), > note the fuel pressure and then fire the injector (50 pulses at 1 ms per > pulse was suggested), note the resulting fuel pressure and calculate the > drop. All the injectors should have approximately the same drop which > correlates to fuel passed through the injector. Now of course it doesn't > evaluate pattern etc. but its a fast test. > > So I set up and turned on the ignition, the fuel pump runs continuously and > doesn't turn off after 5 seconds. Being a new Vanagon owner I thought that > this was normal... But I'm now suspicious. > > I checked the wiring diagram and see that the pump is actually run through a > relay, that is controlled by the ECU. I removed the relay, turned on the > ignition and the pump still ran. Turns out the PO/Tech had run a wire from > terminal 15 on the coil directly to the pump. So ignition on, pump on. > > This of course is a huge safety issue ... > > I replaced the relay and connected the pump up properly and all was well, > until I checked the fuel pressure. As soon as the pump stopped the fuel > pressure bled down rapidly to zero (~2-3 sec). The manual expects at least > 29 psi after ten minutes! > > I pinched off the fuel return line and individual injectors to test for leak > down issues and concluded that the pump itself was not holding the pressure > when it stopped. > > So the engine runs, but starts hard, with the pump running all the time as > before, the engine started immediately. > > I guess I need to know my options. Could I put a check valve in the pressure > side of the fuel line or should I bite the bullet and get a new pump? > > Dave > > '86 Westy > > > > > >
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