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Subject:Re: Anyone have a 3rd Party External Oil Cooler or Transmission Cooler installed?
From:Robert Fisher
Date:Tue, 19 May 2009 12:18:10 -0700

Could you post pics when you're done with the install?

Cya,
Robert
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
Robert Stewart
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 11:59 AM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Anyone have a 3rd Party External Oil Cooler or Transmission Cooler
installed?

Hello Everyone,

I just purchased the Bus Boys Oil Cooler kit and the Small Car  
Performance Tranny Cooler System for my 2.1L Automatic Wolfsburg. The  
engine was just rebuilt and is going back in the van at the end of the  
week once these parts come in. I also ordered the GoWesty Coolant Pipe  
Fix system and am replacing all coolant hoses, heater hoses and fuel  
lines before I make a cross country trip this summer.

I was wondering if there are any issues to be concerned with regarding  
these Coolers?

Small car tells me to mount the Tranny Cooler on drivers side of the  
tranny in front of the rear wheel. I asked about possibly angling the  
unit with a pitched 15 degree front downward angle and they said you  
could but it was not necessary as they have been installing these  
units in their Vanagons and Subie/Vanagon upgrades for years with no  
cooling issues in that position.   Anyone have another placement  
option? I am told if I located it there since it's a short distance it  
will only need a 1 Quart of additional ATF.

When I spoke to Bus Boys they said to mount it either under the van  
next to the Tranny cooler or in the engine bay. I could place the Oil  
cooler on the left side of the engine as there is a space to the left  
of the Coolant Container, but I am not sure it would get enough air  
flow. My thought was to place it under the van.  Thoughts anyone? (Yes  
I have read the threads on the Samba by TenCent life and his system,  
but I don't want to cut into any parts of the van.)*

Regards,
Robert
NY
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Here are the details of what I purchased if anyone is interested:

Transmission Cooler
http://www.smallcar.com/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=83

Product Information

NEW - Includes mounting hardware.

Automatic Vanagons have a factory installed transmission cooler that  
uses engine coolant and the radiator to cool the fluid. This adds the  
transmission cooling load to the engine cooling system (this is less  
than ideal) and the results of a failure of this cooler are disastrous  
for both the transmission and the cooling system.

Our cooler kit keeps the two systems separate and does a better job of  
keeping the transmission fluid cool in very hot weather. Additionally,  
a failure in the system results in only a fluid leak that is easily  
repaired.

Recommended for all automatic Vanagons including those with the higher  
horsepower Subaru engines.

Our kit includes all the neccessary hardware and does not require any  
drilling or tapping of the transmission, It can be installed without  
removal of the transmission. The two 5/8" hoses to the original cooler  
can be bypassed with this mender or can be rerouted to bypass the area  
entirely.

The recommended mounting position is between the frame rails on the  
driver's side just in front of the transmission.

Price: $159.00

Oil

http://www.bus-boys.com/oilcoolingremote.html

Part # 11705 $132

Part # 11780 $79.35

Oil Coolers and Accessories
Type 2 & Vanagon

Race-Trim� Oil Cooler Systems

The ultimate in cooling efficiency, Race-Trim� stacked-plate design  
offers maximum cooling with almost bullet-proof strength.  Aircraft  
quality aluminum, fluxless oven brazed construction.  Cross-path  
airflow effectively cools oil as air passes through as many as 16  
paths across sturdy embossed plates.  Insignificant pressure drop,  
twice the cooling in half the size.  Painted black for fast heat  
dissipation. Fitted with 1/2 inch female pipe thread fittings.  The  
best system for your Bus or Vanagon.

Key Part No. Description/Application/Price

Part Numbers in Italics - Call For Availability

Coolers & Cooler Kits

ZAP-11705  Oil Cooler Kit Complete,  72 Plate with "Sandwich" Oil  
Filter Adaptor  $132.00

NOTE:  ZAP-11705 is recommended only for Vanagon Wasserboxers from  
1983 to 1985.  Will not fit 1986 to 1991 models due to OEM oil cooler  
design on filter mounting.  Recommend using ZAP-11701 above for these  
applications.

Separate Oil Cooler System Parts

ZAP-11780  Oil Thermostat.  Opens at 175� F.  Bypasses Oil Cooler  
Below 175� for Quick Warm-Up.  Includes Fittings and Clamps.  $79.35

NOTE:  This thermostat must be installed between the oil filter and  
cooler for proper operation.  Strongly recommended for proper engine  
warm-up in cool weather operation.

IMPORTANT NOTE:   Cooler hoses/systems must be installed in this  
order.  Engine to oil filter to thermostat (if used) to cooler and  
then back to the engine.  Hot oil must be filtered first before it is  
cooled for best flow.

Order Toll Free (800)792-2697  | Information (530)244-1616  |  24 Hour  
Fax (530)244-0933

This is the product you are getting:

model is 9217 for vanagon dimensions are 11 X 8 X 1.5