At 12:52 PM 7/3/2009, craig cowan wrote:
>effective margin of the traditional method

ROFL -- for me the "traditional method" is back pressure / arm lift,
aka the Schaefer method IIRC.  I grew up with a ~1942 Bluejacket's
Manual (US Navy handbook for enlisted men, apparently also given to
Naval Academy midshipmen), read it all several times before I was
ten, I think.  I knew how to swim through burning oil!  And use a
Navy Standard fogging nozzle on a three-inch line, and run a P250
Handy Billy dewatering pump with an eductor!  And clear a gas
mask!  I brought the sucker to boot camp -- big mistake.  I made lots
of mistakes in boot camp, and later.

>Actually some of the time now, they say just hook them up to an AED

Let me guess...Automatic Electrodefibrillating Device -- am I
close?  I bet that doesn't work very well when the heart is stopped,
rather than fibrillating.

>Times have changed.
>I'm way too young to be saying that....

Aren't we all, brother...

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'89 Po' White Star "Scamp"