

| Subject: | Re: question about a high roof vanagon |
| From: | Scott Daniel - Turbovans |
| Date: | Mon, 13 Jul 2009 12:27:12 -0700 |
thank you for the response Joe..... I'm starting to learn about them. I did see a comment about the 'anti-aerodynamic' rrear of the Adventurewagon top on those theSamba forums. I would like to correct that perception. If you read the factory propaganda from Adventurewagon ........it states that that pointy back end of the AW top moves the center of pressure aftwards a bit, and gives it a slight 'arrow' affect. That is true. ...............for sure. Also ............in vehicle dymamics, for most type of vehicles......including boats, airplanes, trans etc ........ 'length' ...............'Length' by itself as two large advantges ............you add interior volume without increasing frontal area. Frontal area of any vehicle is 'bad' .............the smaller the better, in terms of the vehicle moving forward. The other big adanatage .......this occurs many in boats ...........( speaking about 'length' by itself ) ............'more wateline length' is always an advantage on all boats, and especially sail boats. Two identical boats .............but one with say 4 more feet of waterline length ..............the longer boat will always sail faster everthing else being equal. So while it's not 'a water thing' ............I like that added length back there in the AW roof ...... plus there's a cute little window back there that opens, has a screw, and is under an overhang somewhat, so there's less tendency to leak in rain. I thought AW's would feel like a lot to push through the air, and feel top heavy. they are neither of those. They noticebly go through the air more smoothly at say 70 mph than a Westy. A westy is 'noodling around' a tiny bit in the air at speed, compared to the AW. Another very significant feature and advantage of the AW top is ............quietness. Even with most of the interior stripped out........the quietest vanagon I have ever driven at speed. I think it's the double walled and insulated AW top that accounts for that. cornering-wise ..................they don't seem top heavy either. The 'only' penalty of any sort is that it's taller full time, and may not fit in garages or low-ceiling parking garages. Otherthat than on slight disadvantage .............the body and roof of the Adventurewagon are just great ! The front upper storage compartment is like .................18 cubic feet or something .........larger than many car trunks...... and that is just one small portion of the volume inside those fine vans. anyway.........obviously , I dig 'em..........Adventurewagons ! ( but not the interior layout ! ........that could use 'fixing' for sure .....depending of course on ones preferences.............some AW owners think the interior layout is just wonderful. ) Scott www.turbovans.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "joe trussell" <vanagon85@GMAIL.COM> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 10:20 AM Subject: Re: question about a high roof vanagon > Is it a Fiberine top? I've seen a couple of these around Denver: > > http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=338892&highlight=hightop > > Joe T. > > On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 9:22 PM, Scott Daniel - Turbovans < > scottdaniel@turbovans.com> wrote: > >> HI all, >> this frined/client of mine is looking at a diesel vanagon to buy ..... >> it has a high top fiberglass top ...........that looks a lot like an >> Adventurewagon, but it's not. >> An AW has a pointy rear end to the roof for aero reasons ( workds darn >> good >> too ) >> but this one is all roundy at the rear of the high roof. It's fiberglass >> I'm >> pretty sure. >> >> so, A .......does anyone know what to call one of these ? >> and B .....are they any good ? Would one make a good base for building a >> project /turbo diesel vanagon ? >> thanks. >> scott >>
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