

| Subject: | Re: Vitrfrigio install report |
| From: | craig cowan |
| Date: | Mon, 27 Jul 2009 21:36:58 -0700 |
I believe Karl Mullendore did a cool way to figure out the actual time the compressor ran...I believe he wired a Vanagon Analog clock into the circuit and for a 24 hour period, determined how much time past "12" where the clock was set was gained. Maybe it was a digital clock, but I remember hearing it was a clock that only gained time when 12v was applied and didn't loose time during the other times. This, would give a VERY accurate report of actual run time. Maybe he's still on this list and can chime in? I love the concept of that fridge, but I still don't see it running for a week without big solar or running the car, even with a big battery.... -Craig '85GL turned WESTY BOSTIG in the back On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 2:24 PM, Troy <colorworks@gci.net> wrote: > The fridge consumes 2.8 amps per hour. The average usage is somewhere > around > 20 minutes, perhaps 15 minutes if the temperatures are on the cool side, > more if it's hot. 2.8 divided by three is close to 1 amp. I think it's a > reasonable assumption based on the feedback I've gotten from people who own > these fridges. No, it is by no means exact. I totally agree with you that > there are too many variables. There are some excellent controllers out > there, battery monitors, that could determine precisely, but my figures > are > super conservative. Even using super conservative figures, the fridge would > not run for a week, and again, that's my point. > > Troy > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kim Brennan" <kimbrennan@mac.com> > To: <colorworks@gci.net> > Cc: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> > Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 1:10 PM > Subject: Re: Vitrfrigio install report > > > Uh, if the compressor doesn't need to cycle, why would you expect the >> fridge to consume 1 amp an hour? Not having looked at the specs, is that >> the standby power consumption? >> >> >> On Jul 27, 2009, at 4:53 PM, Troy wrote: >> >> Agreed, but even taking the most conservative figures (one amp per hour) >>> the >>> refrigerator is not going to run for a week, and that's really my point. >>> The >>> situation will only get worse when everything else is factored in, >>> including >>> everything you mentioned, but there are other variables such as lights >>> and >>> stereo, furnace, etc. all of which will make matters worse, not better. >>> >>> Troy >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Kim Brennan" <kimbrennan@mac.com> >>> To: <colorworks@gci.net> >>> Cc: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> >>> Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 12:03 PM >>> Subject: Re: Vitrfrigio install report >>> >>> >>> The problem with the math, is it makes several assumptions about the >>>> environmental circumstances that may or may not be valid. If it gets >>>> cooler at night, such that the fridge compressor doesn't need to run >>>> much >>>> (or at all), this throws off your timing. A similar issues comprimises >>>> the longetivity timetable, if it is hotter that anticipated. Opening >>>> the >>>> fridge a lot, will mean it cycles more. If the fridge is more tightly >>>> packed, it will cycle less. Etc. >>>> >>>> Lots of variables here. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>
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