On Jul 28, 2009, at 9:27 AM, Aristotle Sagan wrote:

> What makes you think American jobs are not dependent upon the health
> of
> Nissan Toyota,, BMW and the like?
>
> At least they are well run automobile manufacturing companies and they
> provide many jobs for American workers. Who would you rather work
> for? Chevy
> or Toyota?
>
> I still think the government should have sold GM to Toyota. Then
> they might
> have had a chance. The new GM  looks a lot like the old GM doesn't it?

not to make too fine a point of it but toyota is doing more or less
the same as gm and
a lot worse than ford.  here are year to date sales change for 2009
till the end of june:

General Motors Corp. -33.2
Ford Motor Company -11.2
Chrysler LLC -41.9

Toyota Motor Sales USA Inc. -31.9
American Honda Motor Co Inc. -35.5
Nissan North America Inc. -33.4

so chrysler is doing the worst with toyota, honda, nissan and gm all
about the same as
next-to-the-worst and ford doing by far the best.  (for the major
sellers in the us of a).

I remain, as always
YrLyl&ObdntSrvnt,

r