

| Subject: | Re: steering rack u-joint |
| From: | Scott Daniel - Turbovans |
| Date: | Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:54:30 -0700 |
hi, hmmm....... not following you exact on 'size of the pin' . the clamp uses an 8mm thread diameter bolt ( 13 mm hex wrench size ) . it's a small cross type u-joint , I don't think it even comes apart. I just got mine out and looked at it. a very nicely and well made part ! it's a 'crimped' type cross u-joint .........so they don't expect you to replace the 'u-joint' inner part of it ......just replace the whole thing as a unit. about 5 inches long, slines on both ends. and cast iron 'U's" . Very well made I just say. At the moment I can't say if the non-PS part is the same. I'd have to dig under some vans etc. if it is, I have one of those I could sell. I suspect it's different though. scott www.turbovans.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Max Wellhouse" <dimwittedmoose@CFU.NET> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 7:07 PM Subject: Re: steering rack u-joint > My steering has the same type of slop in it and it's been geting > gradually worse for years. Traced the beginning of itback when I > disconnected the PS pump and drove the van as a non PS ride with a PS > rack. yeah the steering effort is increased for sure, and I'll bet > the hanover folk didn't think they'd need a beefy u joint in there > for the effortlessness of power steering. > > Scott, any chance you could do a ball park guess as to the diameter > of the pin in that u joint? > > I've been meaning to carry a spare round piece of steel or bolt in > case it should ever fail on me. I think I have a spare from the > Syncro melt down, but couldn't locate it any time soon. > > Thanks > > DM&FS > > At 08:03 PM 7/28/2009, Scott Daniel - Turbovans wrote: >>I havn't seen those wear ever. >>( I can come up with a good used one though ) >> >>factors, that I can see, contirbuting to wear on that part, besides sheer >>age... >>or running with not-so-hot shocks, >>tires out of balance, or tires or wheels out of round, >>or no offenee...........believe it or not, clumsy heavy-handed steering. >> >>I wouldnt' think this myself, but I let a guy use a vanagon of mine for >>about a year and bit once...... >>non-power steering. >>when I got it back it had a solid two inches of steeing play at the edge >>of >>the steering wheel. >>which I thought was weird since vangons almost never get steering play >>much >>.......they get worn tie rod ends, sure ......but for play to develope, >>like >>slop in the linkage , that doesn't really happen much. >> Then one day I watched this same guy.........who weighs about 350 lbs at >>least, back his own van out of my shop...... >>and when it came time to turn the steering wheel, he *jerked* the sterring >>input. Of course at low speed, that's rough on the steering linake. >>And I don't mean just pull in the direction he wanted to steer, I mean >>'jerk >>it', like hard. >>I am reasonably certain that his rough handling of the steering like that, >>especially at zero miles per hour is what did it to my van- - created >>wear >>like that. . >>In that case it was where the tie rod ends come out of the steering >>rack...... >>completely ovaled out there, just ruined the rack. >> >>I've been saving an entire good used power steering rack, with the shaft >>that goes forward to the 'V' steering box up in there ......a part you'd >>never know was there , and the shaft has that u-joint in it. >>I'll have to check if a non-PS u-joint is the same. >>the two shafts, PS versus non-PS are slightly different, and the u-joint >>might be too. Not sure if I want to break up the set, as it makes a >>perfect >>set to convert a non-PS vanagon to PS. >>scott >>www.turbovans.com >> >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Warren Lail" <wklail@GMAIL.COM> >>To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> >>Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 5:40 PM >>Subject: steering rack u-joint >> >> >>>Greetings everyone, >>> >>>Recently when driving slowly on rough dirt roads I noticed a knocking, >>>rattling sound that I can feel in the steering. Today when I arrived >>>home (and after I washed away tons of mud), I crawled under my bus and >>>it seems that the u-joint that connects to the power steering rack is >>>quite worn and loose. Is this something that generally wears and >>>needs replacing? It looks like it is attached to the steering rack >>>and to a rod running forward by a couple of integrated clamp-like >>>things with bolts through them. Hard to replace? Source for the >>>part? >>> >>>Thanks, >>> >>>Warren in Santa Fe >>>88 Westy
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