I was in Montana at the old State Pen for a tour (I know what you were
thinking) and there is a car museum attached to the side. In it were
electric cars from the 1900-1910 range that seated 6, and had a range of
over a 100 miles. That was way back then, what the hell is going on now???
Courtney

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Sullivan" <sandwichhead@GMAIL.COM>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 9:41 AM
Subject: Re: [NVC] Pee for Fuel - no joke

> Now if we could get a vanagon to run on vinegar.  Some Vanagoners are full
> of pi&& and vinegar. herherher
> Michael in San Antonio
> 91GL AT 'Gringo'
> 73 Beetle
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 11:27 AM, John Rodgers <inua@charter.net> wrote:
>
>> I visited a locomotive museum in Calera, AL and saw a steam powered rail
>> yard engine built before 1950 that did not generate it's own steam. It
>> had a high pressure steam vessel which was filled will high pressure
>> steam daily from a steam generating plant. On that steam charge it could
>> run 1/2 to 3/4 of a day before having to be recharged. Similar in
>> principle to a compressed air powered vehicle. The point here is that
>> the principle of compressed steam or air works for driving a vehicle and
>> the source does not have to be on board the engine itself. Fueling time
>> is another matter. But this proves the point
>>
>> John Rodgers
>> 88 GL Driver
>>
>>  Roger Whittaker wrote:
>>
>>> dear pisser mobile
>>>
>>> there is a link on that page taking clickers to a popular Mechanics site
>>> where compressed air powered vehicles is the discussion...
>>> the image shows 2003 as the date on the concept drawing
>>> the article says 2009-2010 ... delivery
>>> yours
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 10:50 PM, John Rodgers <inua@charter.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> This just amazes me. If you own a cow, you have got it made!!!
>>>>
>>>> Why didn't someone think of it before. It took some serious thinking
>>>> outside the box to come up with this one, but it makes a lot of sense
>>>> and the technology is relatively simple. It produces raw hydrogen that
>>>> can be burned, and storage is simple. Fuel cells as we currently know
>>>> them are not required. No high pressure super cold vessels required for
>>>> storage either.
>>>>
>>>> This was developed at Ohio University so it's not some strange idea
>>>> dreamed up in some strange land - it came from good old USA ingenuity.
>>>>
>>>> For more details visit here
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2009/07/28/your-car-and-home-could-soon-be-powered-by-your-urine.aspx
>>>>
>>>> Or;
>>>>
>>>> Google for "Pee for Fuel" - all kinds of articles will pop up.
>>>>
>>>> John Rodgers
>>>> 88 GL Driver
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> roger w
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>>> servant who becomes king ...
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