so much stupidity. ( shoot, it's not Friday is it  ? )
ok, real short then.
so they ruin the engines there at the dealer ....
then they tow the cars somewhere.  = ?
Wouldn't it consume less fuel, and reduce emissions, to drive the cars to
the crusher, rather than tow them there ?
sure seems so to me. Tow trucks are not known for low emissions or high fuel
mileage.

This program  increases the value of our older wonderful vans too.
heck, all you have to do is go out to your westy some afternoon, and use it
for a private hang-out space .......
which people can not do as well with their cars and SUV's , like you can
with a westy.  They're priceless, and getting more so as we go here.
If there was a Westy-sensitive senator ...
they could exclude Westy's and Weekenders  from being eligible for the
program,
for the sake of preserving a truly great thing.
Write your senator !

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Clarkson" <Dvdclarksn@AOL.COM>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 6:46 AM
Subject: Idiots for Clunkers..guy scraps 86 westy in new goverment program

>I work in the service dept. at a Honda dealership and am watching the
> "clunkers" come in and have their engines euthanized daily. Someone
> thought that
> it was humorous to suggest writing clunker on my 90 Westy's windshield.
> Talk  about getting my dander up!!!! There is just something that is
> wasteful
> on so  many levels about this program. I can't bear to watch the engines
> being  destroyed no matter what make or model. To a gearhead like me it's
> about
> as  pleasant as going to the SPCA to watch puppies being euthanized
> (because I love  dogs more than I love most people-please don't
> misunderstand the
> analogy here).  The point being that most who have never experienced the
> magic of our vehicles  will never understand our passion for keeping them
> on the
> road. I tried to  explain the "magic" of a Westy and that is was an
> investment as well as an  intoxicating dream machine and reality escape
> pod. When I
> showed several  co-workers the vehicles like mine for sale on the GoWesty
> site the collective  sounds of jaws dropping was priceless. They still
> think
> that I'm nuts  though.
>
> David Clarkson
> 90 Westy 266K
>
>
> In a message dated 8/2/2009 9:09:48 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> fortino1@EARTHLINK.NET writes:
>
> I stored  our 85gl for about a year indoors, pulled it out she ran like
> a  top.
> Love it ! 3 states later we are staying in Oregon.. No cash for  my
> clunker :)
>
> Joe
>
> Sent from iPhone.
>
> On Aug 2, 2009, at  9:41 AM, Al Knoll <anasasi@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>
>> I concur  fully.  Let's say your Westy Escape Pod has 150Kmiles serves
>>  breakfast and dinner sleeps 4 in a pinch works as a ski cabin,
>> huntin  lodge,
>> seaside resort, high country retreat, fishin' shack, astronomy  base,
>> poppywatching basecamp,and stealth accommodations at  MallWarts
>> around the
>> country, gets only 15mpg and knows the  way home.  To replace all that
>> capability would cost ?? 25K  minimum at the local new car monger.
>> A NEW
>> sportsmobile, well  don't even think about it.  So if it is a
>> 'guzzler' get a
>>  beater to drive for the most part and reserve your legendary Tardis
>>  for
>> worthy ventures.
>>
>>
>> On 8/2/09,  steve@eurocampers.com <steve@eurocampers.com> wrote:
>>
>>>  There's no doubt a few Vanagons will meet their fate through this
>>>  program.
>>>
>>> I would have traded in my '93 EV Weekender  had I insured it for the
>>> past year.  It has 200K on it and  it's a little rusty in the wheel
>>> wells.  It would be a good  van for someone to fixup, but it's not
>>> worth $4,500.  The  same goes for many Vanagons.
>>>
>>> I could also scrap my '99  EV GLS.  It has nearly 170K on it, but it's
>>> such a good  reliable useful van, that I hate to see it go.  I think
>>> the  value is just a bit under $4,500, so it's not such a great  deal.
>>>
>>> I have lots of family and friends that were  hoping to turn something
>>> in under this program.  None of them  had vehicles that qualified.
>>> The program was smart in the way it  takes the worst gas guzzlers off
>>> the road.
>>>
>>>  It really comes down to value.  If your Vanagon is worth close  to
>>> $4,500 bucks or more, your a bit crazy to scrap it.  Most  of the
>>> Vanagons that will meet their demise under this program  likely would
>>> have gone to the crusher sooner or later  anyway.
>>>
>>> Steve
>>> SKL Enterprises  Inc.
>>> http://EuroCampers.com  <http://eurocampers.com/>
>>>
>>> 888-797-5994 -  orders
>>> 636-337-7700 - customer service
>>>
>>> On  Aug 2, 2009, at 10:24 AM, JordanVw@AOL.COM  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> thats actually a merion brown  '86 westy wolfsburg weekender..
>>>> what a shame.   i  guess it has "CLUNKER" written across the
>>>> windshield  now,
>>>> and must be scrapped.
>>>>
>>>> the  sad thing is that vehicles elegible for this program must be  25
>>>> yrs old
>>>> or LESS...so this idiot just  scraped by by ONE YEAR..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> im  sure many more '86-'91 vanagons will meet this fate as well -
>>>>  especially
>>>> in california.
>>>> at least vehicles  that are older than 25 yrs are NOT elegible, so
>>>> they  are
>>>> "protected" LOL
>>>>
>>>>  chris
>>>>
>>>>
>
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