

| Subject: | Re: Vitrifrigo trip results, wiring, battery life, charging issues, etc |
| From: | Jeffrey Vickers |
| Date: | Wed, 5 Aug 2009 15:09:10 -0700 |
Nice write up, Mark. Are you using a 1315 Sure Power Separator and are you going from the alternator to the main or aux side of the separator? Thanks, Jeff / 87 Subie Syncro Westy On Aug 5, 2009, at 2:30 PM, Automatic digest processor wrote: > Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 13:14:42 -0700 > From: mark drillock <mdrillock@COX.NET> > Subject: Vitrifrigo trip results, wiring, battery life, charging > issues, etc > > Anne and I just returned to San Diego from a 3 week camping trip in > the > PNW area. Just before starting out I installed a Vitrifrigo in place > of > our working Dometic 182A. Due to time constraints I pretty much > slapped > it in and hoped for the best, making no changes to our existing aux > battery setup other than new Group 48 batteries for both starting and > aux positions. I realized this rushed install might bite me and > eventually it did. I also brought one of those battery voltage > display/alarms that plugged into the cig socket, planning to wire it > directly to the aux battery at some point since it gave lower than > true > readings while plugged into the cig socket powered by the aux battery. > After about a week on the road I knew I would HAVE to do something to > improve the battery charging. The battery voltage would drop lower and > lower each night, rising some of the way back up during driving each > day. Finally one night the fridge stopped running because the battery > was too low. > > I stopped at that retail giant we love/hate and bought a set of 8 > gauge > battery booster cables and a roll of solder as well as a pocket > butane > torch. I stopped at a NAPA and bought a pack of ring terminals, 5/16" > for 6 gauge wire and an extra 8mm nut and washer. Then we headed off > to > camp where we were meeting friends at the SyncroSafari near Mt St > Helens. That night the battery voltage again dropped too low, though > we > had driven for several hours during the day. I had to fix this and > soon. > > As a test step I cut the giant battery clamp off one end of one > booster > cable and crimped on a ring terminal. Then I attached it to the > alternator stud using the extra nut and washer. I ran the cable on the > ground around the driver side of the van, extending it with the other > cable so it would reach the battery under the driver seat. First I > started the engine and revved it a bit to get a voltage reading at the > cig socket. Then I connected the far end booster cable clamp to the > positive post of the battery. The voltage reading jumped by .7 > volts, a > good sign, and I could hear the alternator belt chirping a little > under > the load, another good sign. I let the engine run a few minutes and > the > voltage slowly increased as the batteries charged. Even with two 12 > foot > booster cables connected end to end there was enough increase in > charging current to make a huge improvement at the batteries. Time to > make a more permanent fix. > > I borrowed a 1/2" battery powered drill and a grommet from some Syncro > friends and installed the new wire. I cut the booster clamps off, > put a > ring terminal on the battery box end, drilled a hole in the bottom of > the battery box, installed the grommet, pushed the cable down through > the hole and put the battery back. Under the van I routed and zip tied > the cables into place, working from each end of the vehicle until the > cables reached each other in an easy to work in space. Then I cut off > the excess length, stripped and wove the copper strands together, and > soldered the joint with a small butane torch. A little electrical > tape, > and all done. > > > The bottom line of this is that the nightly draining of the aux > battery > by the Vitrifrigo brought to the fore an existing weakness in the > charging path. Even driving for 4 or 5 hours in daylight did not > sufficiently recharge the deeply drained battery. The addition of a > new > 8 gauge wire from the alternator to the separator relay corrected > this. > We had no further problems with the battery voltage dropping too low > during the night and the voltage came back up higher and much quicker > while driving. > > As to replacing the propane capable Dometic with the electric only > Vitrifrigo, the jury is still out. The fridge is nicer in every way > but > will need a larger battery capacity installed before it can be used > for > more than a day or 2 without driving. > > Anne and I have since talked about various additions to help out the > battery capacity. We noted that virtually none of the campsites we > stayed in would have worked with a solar panel. I may still install > one > for our Baja trips as there is plenty of sun there on the beach. > > Mark
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