--- On Tue, 8/11/09, Florian Speier <groups.florian@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> yes, the germans figured out 5-10%
> get illegally diverted to easter europe
> and africa. 
When I was in Germany 2006-7 it was even difficult to buy a used T3 Vanagon. The good ones went to other parts of Europe, and the less good to Africa.

> considering that c4c in germany mainly aims at
> 9-12 yea old
> vehicles, and that the� emission reqs there where
> pretty high back then
> already, maybe they should just be exported to the U.S. to
> make us
> greener:-)

Actually, Europe got the catalytic converter laws a lot later than US/Canada. Having grown up there and moved to the US in the 90's I noticed how much better the air smelled even in New York! Now Volvo's, Audi's, and Mercedes all regularly go 20+ years, so though the air has improved there are still many non-catalytic cars on the roads. 

> > http://www.treehugger.com/files/2009/08/thieves-cash-clunkers-germany.php
> > http://tinyurl.com/nwevvq
 
The photo of the Vanagon carted away on two shopping carts is priceless!
(But probably just archive photo the newsagency pulled)

Martin

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