I'm with you, Robert. I've lived in LA (Hollywood-ish) for about 8 years now
from New York. I suppose it is a matter of experience and I can only share
mine. I find drivers in the L.A. are completely unable to understand cause
and effect. (I don't find much change when they get out of their cars ;)

Turn Signals? If I ever see one turned on it is after a car stops in the
middle of an intersection on surface streets.That is to say, sit at the red
traffic light, when it turns green pull forward 4 feet, stop, THEN turn on
left turn signal-- although the signal is rare.

I too find the drivers think they are stunt drivers and follow at about 4
feet on the freeway. I do not believe they are stunt drivers. I personally
think they are morons. Given enough bandwidth I believe I could in prove
they were morons using simple laws of physics.

My experience is the same as those who have a gap closed on the freeway at
the risk of life and limb to make sure a person using a signal cannot change
lanes here in LA.

I simply don't have enough years left in my life to begin to talk about the
accepted driving practice of waiting to make a left turn at an intersection
with a green light behind the crosswalk UNTIL the light turns red, then
having two cars speed through the red light in keeping with what they call
the "2 cars after the red" guideline.

Best,
Jeff
83.5 Westy
LA,CA

On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 10:30 PM, Robert Fisher <refisher@mchsi.com> wrote:

> Not in some twenty years, and if I ever go back to TX it'll be way too
> soon. So naturally all the Texans on the list are gonna pee in
>