What I'm wondering is what is this 'hella relay' thing really about ?
Like, is the orginal poster adding headlight or fog light relays, and has a
Hella brand relay to use ..........?
If I missed something early in the thread- sorry.

If its' adding in a relay for extra loads, like from lights,  I personally
wouldn't be trying to plug it into an existing blank spot on the fuse box,
though that would be the more elegant installation of course.

----- Original Message -----
From: "neil N" <musomuso@GMAIL.COM>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 2:34 PM
Subject: Re: Where does Hella relay go?

> On 8/22/09, Jeff Hartman <jeffreyleehartman@gmail.com> wrote:
>>.First, no
>> there are no numbers on that relay other than the ones I noted. There
>> is also an identical relay in position 5. Other relays, labeled with
>> big white numbers are 43 (position 3), 18 (position 8), 19 (position
>> 10), 72 (position 11) , 21 (position 12).  I have neither air
>> conditioning, nor heated seats.  The vin number is: WV2XB0259GH025126.
>>   I think this bus was purchased in the U.S.  So the open relay slots
>> that I could have come out of are: 1 (no wires in back), 2(yes wires
>> in back), 4 (yes wires in back) and 7(yes wires in back).  I have it
>> plugged into relay slot 7 right now.  Note, I said earlier I had 8
>> relays.  Sorry, apparently I can't count, because there are only 7
>> relays.  One more than identified by Joel and Jeff Seaman for an 86
>> van.  I don't know of any original electrical acessory that might
>> account for this 7th relay.  But that and where it is supposed to go
>> is the mystery.
>
>
> Ok.
>
> Looking at main wiring diagram for "up to VIN G 055 689" starting at
> relay in upper LH corner above fuses.....
>
> 3- coolant level control unit
> 5- rad cool fan relay 2nd stage
> 8- load reduction relay
> 10- intermitt. wash/wiper relay
> 11- rear window wash/wiper relay
> 12- emerg. flash/turn sig. relay
>
> Sounds like relays you wrote of, and that Bentley indicates, are
> present. But.....
>
> YMMV. Bentley is very clear on pages showing relays that there are
> variations and that one should be careful.
>
> If it were me, I'd check each open relay socket see if power present
> or switched. Then, I'd disconnect *all* batteries (if aux. battery(s)
> present) and trace the wires back starting with a physical trace, then
> confrim with my VOM. Pulling the instrument cluster would help in this
> regard.
>
> Do you have cruise control, power windows? Just a thought. (though a
> quick look at Bentley and I don't see relays shown in the upper part
> of page. i.e. fuse/relay panel)
>
> Hopefully Jake or other actual owner can help. I really don't want to
> lead you down a path that may be more complex than needed.
>
> Neil.
>
>
>
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