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Subject:Re: Where does Hella relay go?
From:mark drillock
Date:Sat, 22 Aug 2009 19:14:08 -0700

Oops, the unused output pin for empty relay socket 7 is B20 not A22.

Relay socket 6 is unused as well, with none of it's pins wired up in
Vanagons. Used as a general purpose relay position in other VW models
that use the same fuse/relay panel. It has a dedicated 4 pin connector
on the back of the panel and VW added a small harness to it when they
wanted to use relay position 6 for something. Various late 80s
Golf/Jetta/Cabriolet used it for a horn relay.

Bentley pages 97.80 and 97.81 show relay sockets 6 and 7 near the top
and you can see that they are not used . Socket 6 hooks to the 4 pins of
the L connector on the rear. The connectors and pins are most clearly
seen on page 97.68.

Mark

mark drillock wrote:
> Relay position 7 is not used. The empty socket is there for a lighting
> related option not found in US models. 3 of the 4 legs are wired up and
> that Hella  relay should click whenever the running lights are turned
> on/off while the key is on but the output leg of the relay has nothing
> to do. Some enterprising person could have figured this out and added a
> wire to pin A22 so the relay could be used. My guess is it was intended
> for Daytime Headlights but that option uses a different relay position
> mounted externally to the panel.
>
> Mark
>
>
>
> Jeff Hartman wrote:
>> Thank you all  for hanging in there with me as I blunder through this.
>>  I do have the fuse panel free enough to check the back.First, no
>> there are no numbers on that relay other than the ones I noted. There
>> is also an identical relay in position 5. Other relays, labeled with
>> big white numbers are 43 (position 3), 18 (position 8), 19 (position
>> 10), 72 (position 11) , 21 (position 12).  I have neither air
>> conditioning, nor heated seats.  The vin number is: WV2XB0259GH025126.
>>   I think this bus was purchased in the U.S.  So the open relay slots
>> that I could have come out of are: 1 (no wires in back), 2(yes wires
>> in back), 4 (yes wires in back) and 7(yes wires in back).  I have it
>> plugged into relay slot 7 right now.  Note, I said earlier I had 8
>> relays.  Sorry, apparently I can't count, because there are only 7
>> relays.  One more than identified by Joel and Jeff Seaman for an 86
>> van.  I don't know of any original electrical acessory that might
>> account for this 7th relay.  But that and where it is supposed to go
>> is the mystery.
>>
>>
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