Thanks so much for the help from all of you.  Right now I am just
keeping said relay in slot 7 and watching what happens.  It does not
seem to be impacting anything yet.  On to the rest of my long vanagon
fix-it list now.
Jeff Hartman
Juneau, Alaska
86 vanagon 2wd, w conversions from ASI

On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 6:14 PM, mark drillock<mdrillock@cox.net> wrote:
> Oops, the unused output pin for empty relay socket 7 is B20 not A22.
>
> Relay socket 6 is unused as well, with none of it's pins wired up in
> Vanagons. Used as a general purpose relay position in other VW models
> that use the same fuse/relay panel. It has a dedicated 4 pin connector
> on the back of the panel and VW added a small harness to it when they
> wanted to use relay position 6 for something. Various late 80s
> Golf/Jetta/Cabriolet used it for a horn relay.
>
> Bentley pages 97.80 and 97.81 show relay sockets 6 and 7 near the top
> and you can see that they are not used . Socket 6 hooks to the 4 pins of
> the L connector on the rear. The connectors and pins are most clearly
> seen on page 97.68.
>
> Mark
>
> mark drillock wrote:
>>
>> Relay position 7 is not used. The empty socket is there for a lighting
>> related option not found in US models. 3 of the 4 legs are wired up and
>> that Hella �relay should click whenever the running lights are turned
>> on/off while the key is on but the output leg of the relay has nothing
>> to do. Some enterprising person could have figured this out and added a
>> wire to pin A22 so the relay could be used. My guess is it was intended
>> for Daytime Headlights but that option uses a different relay position
>> mounted externally to the panel.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>
>>
>> Jeff Hartman wrote:
>>>
>>> Thank you all �for hanging in there with me as I blunder through this.
>>> �I do have the fuse panel free enough to check the back.First, no
>>> there are no numbers on that relay other than the ones I noted. There
>>> is also an identical relay in position 5. Other relays, labeled with
>>> big white numbers are 43 (position 3), 18 (position 8), 19 (position
>>> 10), 72 (position 11) , 21 (position 12). �I have neither air
>>> conditioning, nor heated seats. �The vin number is: WV2XB0259GH025126.
>>> �I think this bus was purchased in the U.S. �So the open relay slots
>>> that I could have come out of are: 1 (no wires in back), 2(yes wires
>>> in back), 4 (yes wires in back) and 7(yes wires in back). �I have it
>>> plugged into relay slot 7 right now. �Note, I said earlier I had 8
>>> relays. �Sorry, apparently I can't count, because there are only 7
>>> relays. �One more than identified by Joel and Jeff Seaman for an 86
>>> van. �I don't know of any original electrical acessory that might
>>> account for this 7th relay. �But that and where it is supposed to go
>>> is the mystery.
>>>
>>>
>>
>