Great news.  And on the play you're finding, but I'm thinking you shouldn't
be having any noticeable play.

Jim
Wilmington, NC

On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 8:54 PM, Jim Felder <jim.felder@gmail.com> wrote:

> I got all the belts off. Thanks so much to Jim Johnston and Jeff
> Ensing, Jim stayed on the problem with the AC belt and Jeff sent me a
> mice marked-up picture of where the offending bolt was hiding, deep in
> the cast bracket. I would have never found it without removing the
> whole assembly form the car.
>
> One last question, I hope:  The water pump pulley assembly is a
> new-to-me configuration with a freewheeling rear sheave and a front
> sheave connected to the water pump. I assume that the rear pulley
> should spin freely and that there should be no play in the bearings.
> There is about .5 mm play in mine and there is almost as much drag as
> on the water pump.
>
> Is this normal?
>
> Jim
>
> On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 7:35 PM, Jim Johnston <inmytree1@gmail.com> wrote:
> > It won't be a problem for me to look tomorrow.
> >
> > Sounds like your getting close.
> >
> > Have you posted your issue on these sites:
> >
> > http://www.vwdieselparts.com/forum/
> >
> > and
> >
> > http://www.vwdiesel.net/forum/
> >
> > These guy know these things inside and out.
> >
> > I just had a thought.  Have you loosened the pulley tensenor bolt out as
> far
> > a you can?  If memory serves me right, I had to remove the A/C compressor
> > tensioner bolts and let out the Pulley tensioner bolt as much as possible
> to
> > allow the alternator bracket.
> >
> > Have you pulled the alternator.   If not, you should, it will open things
> up
> > for you hands and eyes.
> >
> >
> > Jim
> > Wilmington, NC
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 8:08 PM, Jim Felder <jim.felder@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Don't do that. I would hate for anyone to undergo this unnecessarily.
> >>
> >> I unbolted every single thing I could find on the PS pump in an effort
> >> to get it out, just remove it and then figure it out, but I managed to
> >> bump it enough with a rubber hammer to get the belt off. Now I can't
> >> get the AC belt off.
> >>
> >> I have removed or loosened:
> >>
> >> The 20mm bolt on the right about halfway down. Can't find its
> >> corrresponding bolt on the left side (facing the engine) if there is
> >> one.
> >>
> >> The upper pivot that goes through the bracket.
> >>
> >> The bolts you have to access from inside and outside the stamped steel
> >> bracket.
> >>
> >> The bottom bolt that the whole arm pivots on, also clamps the forward
> >> end of the PS pump bracket.
> >>
> >> Is there anything else?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Jim
> >>
> >> On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 6:50 PM, Jim Johnston <inmytree1@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> > Good news.  If you have trouble, let me know, I'll crawl under mine
> and
> >> > reacquaint myself with the belt system.
> >> >
> >> > Jim
> >> > Wilmington, NC
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 7:30 PM, Jim Felder <jim.felder@gmail.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> I think I got this. It may be loose enough, but I can't know until I
> >> >> get the PS pump out of the way.
> >> >>
> >> >> Jim
> >> >>
> >> >> On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 4:45 PM, Jim Johnston <inmytree1@gmail.com>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> > That compressor is in there very tight.  Just to be sure, you have
> >> >> > both
> >> >> > hex
> >> >> > bolts loosened.  The one under the IP is hard to get too.  Also,
> the
> >> >> > tensioner bolt need to be loosened quite a bit.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Finally, there is a bolt under the compressor.  It's off to the
> side.
> >> >> > If
> >> >> > your facing the engine, the random, hard to get to bolt is toward
> the
> >> >> > front
> >> >> > of the compressor, to the left.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Jim
> >> >> > Wilmington, NC
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 5:36 PM, Jim Felder <jim.felder@gmail.com>
> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Jim,
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I think have every bolt loosened on the AC, and I have a bracket
> on
> >> >> >> another motor to compare to, but I can't move it. Don't know why.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Jim
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 3:57 PM, Jim Johnston <
> inmytree1@gmail.com>
> >> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >> > Hi Jim,
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > I hope I can help.  I have a 1990 Jetta Diesel and I've learned
> a
> >> >> >> > lot
> >> >> >> > through trail and error.  If I read this right, you can't move
> the
> >> >> >> > A/C
> >> >> >> > compressor to loosen the belt.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > The bracket has two hex bolts, one on each side.  The non-engine
> >> >> >> > side
> >> >> >> > is
> >> >> >> > hard to see and  get to.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Here is a pic of the bracket out of the car:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> http://picasaweb.google.com/inmytree1/16DieselACBracket#5200242471705307922
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > as you can see one of the bolts sheared.  a common issue.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Here is the alternator and pulley setup.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > http://picasaweb.google.com/inmytree1/ACPulleyETKA#
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Let me know if this doesn't help.  I'll try to answer anything I
> >> >> >> > can.
> >> >> >> > The
> >> >> >> > car is in the driveway and I can go out and look at it for
> >> >> >> > reference.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Jim
> >> >> >> > Wilmington, NC
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 4:28 PM, Jim Felder <
> jim.felder@gmail.com>
> >> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Folks, if someone can't help me out with a belt change problem
> on
> >> >> >> >> my
> >> >> >> >> 91 diesel Jetta, I'm going to have it towed to a shop and for
> the
> >> >> >> >> first time in many years actually pay someone to do something
> as
> >> >> >> >> simple as changing and adjusting the waterpump and AC belts.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> I have the bentley for the car. Worse than useless.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> I have been to the library to look it up in Mitchell's.
> Nothing.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> I have googled every permutation of words describing what I
> want
> >> >> >> >> to
> >> >> >> >> do
> >> >> >> >> for two weeks. Nothing.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> I joined every Jetta list on the internet. Nothing at all.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> I have removed or loosened every nut and bolt on the
> alternator,
> >> >> >> >> compressor and PS pump that I can find. Alternator belt's off,
> I
> >> >> >> >> get
> >> >> >> >> that. I can move the AC compressor about an eighth of an inch,
> >> >> >> >> and I
> >> >> >> >> have a setup just about like it to look at for reference on
> >> >> >> >> another
> >> >> >> >> engine, so I know I've gotten everything loose there. I cannot
> >> >> >> >> move
> >> >> >> >> the PS pump a thousandth of an inch without, as far as I can
> >> >> >> >> tell,
> >> >> >> >> removing every bracket and adjuster holding it to the block and
> I
> >> >> >> >> still don't think that would solve the adjustment problem at
> all.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> So, I'm going to ask here, at the only place I know of to find
> >> >> >> >> out,
> >> >> >> >> in
> >> >> >> >> case someone on the list has done it: How do you replace and
> >> >> >> >> adjust
> >> >> >> >> the alternator and AC belt on a 1991 diesel Jetta?
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Thanks,
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Jim
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >
> >
>