Having the emissions of a light truck isn't saying much.  Pretty bad, in
fact.

Emissions are for the most part a linear function of fuel used.   So the
best way to reduce emissions is to use less fuel - by driving less, by using
less fuel per mile, or both.

Joy

On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 11:58 AM, Dave Mcneely <mcneely4@cox.net> wrote:

> Almost certainly all true, Karl.  But, many on this list evidently use
> their vanagons for daily driving according to statements they've made,
> some in city conditions.  So .... the criticism that is offered for the
> pick-up drivers who do the same applies here.  Different kinds of
> vehicles have different uses.  If a vehicle is used as a passenger car,
> it is in effect a passenger car, and is not taking advantage of its
> extra cargo capacity or other functions that passenger cars lack.  If
> I'm not camping, I don't drive my camper.  I drive my Prius (which
> evidently has a dangerous floor mat, according to news reports yesterday
> -- a dangerous floor mat -- good grief!).
>
> Dave Mc
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 1:40 AM, Karl Wolz wrote:
>
>  Not an expert on emissions; others on this list are.  From what I've
>> been
>> reading, some states have adopted the CA standard while others use the
>> US
>> standard.  There may be some variations in testing, etc. but there
>> seem to
>> be only two actual standards, and those may only relate to new
>> vehicles.
>>
>> I have been hearing for a long time how "dirty" our vans are, but
>> looking up
>> the CA and US standards for LDT2 (the category our vans would fall
>> into),
>> and the emissions readings posted by David B earlier today (which
>> coincide
>> with my own readings), we're not far off the fleet readings for new
>> light
>> trucks.
>>
>> Could I have misinterpreted the EPA charts?  Heck yes, but I don't
>> think so.
>> If our vans are tuned correctly, they seem to be pretty darned clean.
>> Now,
>> if you're comparing apples and oranges and comparing our vans to the
>> new
>> ultra clean burn vehicles, which are mostly passenger vehicles, then,
>> sure,
>> they are dirty, but compared to current light trucks/small vans, they
>> seem
>> to hold their own.
>>
>> If anyone has actual numbers to prove otherwise, let us all know, but
>> remember to keep your fruits in a row!
>>
>> Karl Wolz
>>
>>
>> Don't know 'where' you are talking about, but I believe emission
>> limits have
>> gotten tighter and tighter a bit at a time,
>> year by year, for a long time.  Thinking of Ca. mainly.  Can't say
>> about
>> other states. Some are quite lax.
>>
>