----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Beierl" <dbeierl@attglobal.net> 
To: "John C..." <JCarp2001@COMCAST.NET> 
Cc: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM 
Sent: Friday, October 2, 2009 1:27:15 PM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain 
Subject: Re: Vanagon emissions 

At 03:00 PM 10/2/2009, John C... wrote: 
>When will we end this oil based society ???? 

When we're ready to give up passenger and military airplanes and go 
back to lighter-than-air craft.  Check the energy density per pound 
and per gallon of petroleum fuels (coal-derived and otherwise) versus 
everything else. 

I'm being perfectly serious here, no sarcasm. 

Yrs, 
d 

Surely a smart man like you can 

think of more options than that ? 

(I'm being perfectly serious here, no sarcasm.) 

me too 

j