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Subject:Re: Vanagon Winter Survival Kit Question
From:Don Hanson
Date:Fri, 30 Oct 2009 10:43:02 -0700

On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 9:22 AM, Dave Mcneely <mcneely4@cox.net> wrote:

> More importantly, liquor is 30 - 40% alcohol, a central nervous system
> depressant.  Want to freeze to death?  Good idea not to drink that stuff
> when life is at stake.  Now, a little warm me up under different
> circumstances -- I enjoy it.  Schnapps is nice (some people really hate it,
> though).  Dave Mc
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 9:02 AM, Stephen Grisanti wrote:
>
> I'm sure someone will jokingly recommend packing a bottle Old (insert
>> favorite alcoholic beverage name here) but keep in mind that liquor at
>> -20F is still be liquid but is also still at -20F and might damage your
>> innards if ingested at that temp.
>>
>> Stephen
>>
>     Have a good friend with some missing foot-parts who will testify as to
the dangers of alcohol, vans and sub-zero temps.  Tony______, who one Jan.
night partied hearty at the Heidleburg Inn at the foot of Teton Pass in
Wyoming, then when Bernard closed up at 2am, he decided he was too drunk to
drive home..So he knee-walked out to his van (60's era split window) and
passed out in the back.  He didn't wake up till about 10am the next day
after temps dropped overnight to -40f.  Lost some toes, and he was lucky
that was all he lost...
  The worst thing about those old AC splitties was that they would almost
always start no matter how cold it was.  My 57 was often the only running
vehicle leaving Wilson, Wy to go towards the ski area on super cold
mornings...I would end up with a full van by the time I'd driven about 5
miles...Everyone would hoof it out to the end of their driveways, looking
for a moving vehicle to get to work in...It did help with the drive to have
a couple of extra hands to keep the ice at bay inside the windows..