the jugs that salts used for purging on the day before a colonoscopy
come in should work great.  They are heavy polyethylene, and I have used
them for the same purpose as Robert describes for years.  David

On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 4:05 AM, Robert Fisher wrote:

> Since we camp in a tent we have to use large coolers for a 'freezer'
> and a
> 'refrigerator'. I have many bottles of water that I bought wherever
> (hellmart or the grocery store) that I put in the deep freeze (after
> pouring
> out the 12% (+/-) for expansion). I look for a bottle that seems
> pretty
> sturdy on the shelf; the best of these seem to be the cheap store
> brand
> drinking water. The only time I can recall breaking any is when I hit
> them
> hard against something while moving them around; other than that
> they've
> held up well. I have some that are more than two years old (I do thaw,
> sterilize and refill the bottles before the camping season). The point
> is, I
> keep them for months at a time in the freezer without issue, so I
> would
> think they'd work just fine for what you want.
>
> On the other hand, during the warm weather here I have to open and
> refill
> the bottles that I keep in the van for emergency coolant water all the
> time
> as they will 'suck up' from evaporation and break. Go figger.
>
> Cya,
> Robert
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On
> Behalf Of
> Max Wellhouse
> Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 6:22 PM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: Vanagon Winter Survival Kit Question
>
> Vaseline drenched cotton balls make a great fire starter, kept in old
> film canisters(soon to be hard to come by).
>
> I think this thread has fallen off the cliff, but if I understand the
> consensus of the list, I can store water in my Vanagon in a sturdy
> container with some airspace for expansion and not have it crack or
> deform after a couple of weeks of temps at or below zero degrees
> Fahrenheit.  That's sorta what I was loking for, as I don't have
> Westy parts to break or get damaged.
>
> Thanks
>
> DM&FS
>
> At 02:52 PM 10/30/2009, Mark Tuovinen wrote:
>> Dryer lint and wax using an egg carton for a form works well too.
>> Makes a
>> great waterproof firestarter for your survival gear.
>>
>> Mark in AK
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 11:36 AM, Rob  wrote:
>>
>>> Anyone carry a hardwood survival candle? I'd heard of them but never
>>> made one. Wax and hardwood saw dust mixed and packed into a can
>>> (coffee can?) to be used as a survival candle.
>>> The burning hardwood sawdust (& wax) gives off heat, something to
>>> keep you from freezing to death when you ran off the road in the
>>> winter. This could be a lifesaver on a really bad day in a Vanagon.
>>>
>>> A quick search brought me to this site;
>>> http://www.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=009vSb
>>>
>>> I'm not even getting into the common sense stuff that goes along
>>> with
>>> fire in an enclosed space.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Rob
>>>
>>> becida@comcast.net
>>> Western Washington State, USA
>>>