

| Subject: | Re: Vanagon Winter Survival Kit Question NOW staying warm! |
| From: | Max Wellhouse |
| Date: | Sun, 1 Nov 2009 04:31:28 -0600 |
I've been told that there is a species of tree called ironwood which burns hot enough that wood stove flues are in danger. I think the statement that all wood has the same caloric value might be true, but in my experience, the hardwoods burn longer at a slower rate making them good for overnight heating in home situations while the softwoods burn more intensely and for a shorter period of time. Kinda like the difference between lighting up a small aluminum foil pan full of acetone,versus lighting up a small aluminum foil pan of kerosene. The last time I lit up a small pan of acetone, there wasn't much aluminum foil to be found when the flame was done. Maybe that's a bit of an over-exaggeration, but you get my drift..... I've never burned a Presto log, but looked at one at Wally World the other night and for $4, you get 3 hours of heat according to the wrapper and spozed to be better for the environmental emmisions. I find that the shelter of my Vanagon, my sleeping bag, and maybe a pouch or two of the "hot hands" stuff(they come in full body sized warmers these days), is more than enough to protect vital body core temperatures. A good Marmot or other brand zero degree bag and merino wool socks and skivies for base layering will go along way towards keeping you alive. Even WalMart has 70% merino wool socks now for $7 a pair. DM&FS At 12:01 AM 11/1/2009, Rob wrote: >Extra heat? That is the wood burning in addition to the wax. >All wood has the same energy? Oh wow, think of all the time I spent >messing with the oak rather than the aspen... See that was my >problem, I thought I was getting more heat from the oak than I did >from the softwoods all those years. >I thought the hardwood burning along with the wax did the trick for >the extra heat. The only person I know (from a list) who has used one >said it worked great in the car that had run off the road in a snow storm. >It is one of those emergency things you keep >in back, with any luck you will never have to find out if > it gives enough heat to keep you alive thru the night. ><Shrug> Next time you're messing with a presto log give it a try and >let us know if it works. > >Rob >becida@comcast.net > >At 10/30/2009 08:25 PM,Mike S wrote: >>At 10:19 PM 10/30/2009, Rob wrote... >>>At 10/30/2009 06:32 PM, Mike S wrote: >>>>Sounds much like one of those artificial fire logs. You could >>>>probably just get one of those, and cut off what's needed, as needed. >>> >>>This is a candle gives off 'extra' heat not a presto log. >> >>Where does this "extra" heat come from? A special high-calorie wax? >>Dry wood is around 6K BTU/lb., whether hardwood or softwood. >> >>Cutting off a few inches of a artificial log, and stuffing it around >>a wick in a can (the logs use a soft wax, and crumble easily), seems >>much easier than mixing melted paraffin wax and woodchips. It also >>allows one to replenish the candle when needed (a log and some wick >>are all that's needed). Probably cheaper than paraffin, too.
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