

| Subject: | Re: The Otter Has (CRASH) Landed! |
| From: | Jonathan Poole |
| Date: | Wed, 4 Nov 2009 14:06:32 -0500 |
I can't agree more, my AC vanagon is a great vehicle and has been performing flawlessly over a lot of miles in a wide variety of conditions. It gets better care than most but the longer I drive it the less inclined I am to worry with converting to a more modern engine. Good cooling and careful monitoring keep the AC engines very happy. Jonathan Poole On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Doug Alcock <doug.alcock@gmail.com> wrote: > I know a 30 year VW dealer mechanic who has a flawless 82 Westy (and > of course it is flawless). He argues that the air-cooled engine at > that stage had been refined over 25 odd years and if your kept it > right it was state of the art. Keep the tin good and you're golden. > Adding water cooling to this engine in the middle of 1983 was, at > best, a bandaid solution that has caused the head/coolant leaking > problem. that we are all familiar with. Not too mention those > incredibly long and hard to bleed hoses that go from front to back of > a 14 foot van. I have heard that VW added water cooling to the > horizontally opposed air-cooled engine because they couldn't make > enough I4 engines to put in them -- and that the I4 engine was what > the van was designed for. I have an I4 conversion (1.8 from a Jetta) > in my 84 Westy and love it. I had a 78 with an air-cooled 2 Litre FI > engine and loved it -- lots of power -- reliable etc. I don't think > air-cooled is a mistake --- but be really serious about the engine tin > --- that is what keeps it cool. Don't ask why I know this :-) > > Cheers, > Doug > > On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 1:33 PM, Jonathan Poole <jfpoolio@gmail.com> wrote: > > I haven't been keeping up with this thread,, not enough time to read much > of > > the list unfortunately. Anyway, I did see Ben's statement on how buying > an > > '82 was a mistake and just in case this anti air-cooled perspective is > all > > that you are hearing I wanted to shed a bit of light from the other side. > > > > Ben knows these beasts better than most of us and he may have good reason > > for dissing the early vanagons but in my experience an '82 isn't really > much > > different than any other year vanagon. It is a bit older but that > doesn't > > matter too much now. How it was taken care of is what matters at this > > point. The biggest difference is obviously in the cooling of the engine. > > Both engines have their problems and both their strengths. Either, if > > properly setup and maintained provide good service for a long time. > > Performance from both is very comparable when you are comparing examples > of > > them that are in good repair. So, did you screw up buying an '82?? Not > in > > my opinion. It was only a mistake if you paid too much for a really beat > up > > and run down van, but in the end most can be fixed if you are up for it > so > > do what you want. > > > > Anyway, I love my air cooled vanagon. I drive it all over at respectable > > speeds, getting good mileage etc. etc. It is pretty simple to keep up > with > > and I never have to worry about leaking antifreeze! My heat isn't as > good, > > but it is still more than adequate. I have melted stuff that was > > accidentally left in front of the heater outlet,, so it will get hot.. I > > also like some features of the early westies better as they have a little > > less plastic and such. Again, in most ways there aren't many real > > differences in my experience. A lot of the bad experiences folks may > have > > had with early vanagons are probably the result of vans that were in poor > > repair. > > > > Good luck getting her sorted out, > > > > Jonathan Poole > > '83 AC Westy > > > > > > -- > http://www.dougalcock.com >
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