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This thread has taken off the Vanagon course (camping). This starting
to sound like a political ad for the Green Party. Focus please.

Veni, Vidi, Vanagon.

VenT
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On Nov 5, 2009, at 7:47 AM, Dave Mcneely <mcneely4@COX.NET> wrote:

> On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 11:39 PM, Dennis Haynes wrote:
>
> I am a bit surprised at responses
>> that we are environmentally destructive or insensitive to others
>> needs
>> for
>> quiet.
>
> Dennis, no offense meant, but your statement reveals the problem.
> Folks
> who believe they are entitled in this way ARE the problem.  I have
> family members who say that they have earned these things because they
> can afford them -- so long as one has the money, they don't see it as
> problematic.  Well, anyone who thinks about others and the environment
> readily sees the problem.  Those of us who have the money have a
> particular responsibility to try to do things in a responsible manner.
>
> I live in a climate where most people believe they must have their
> house
> cooled to 70 F in summer (from 100 F) and heated to 75 in winter
> (from 0
> to 10 F).  I find I can get along quite comfortably without air
> conditioning, and with my house heated to 65 F in winter.  I have
> spent
> quite a lot of money to upgrade my insulation and windows, and to do
> other things to conserve energy.
>
> Yes, many of us must reduce what we use.  Smaller houses than the
> McMansions that became popular would help, too.  The earth is finite.
>
> David McNeely